Re: Plans for ahead

[Gregory Casamento]

Which theme are you using?   A modern theme is sorely needed.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 8:19 AM, David Chisnall <theraven@sucs.org> wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 09:41, Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mottola@libero.it> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps the best card deck is covered by GNOME/GTK, since even if not 
>> "gnome" other GTK application blend nicely in. So for example You can have 
>> Xfce, then Firefox, GIMP and Inkscape blend quite well in. No real native 
>> Office suite, but for the end-user OpenOffice will fit in.
>>
>> On GNUstep, because of its distinctive design, an application like 
>> OpenOffice sticks out immediately.
>>
>> Perhaps we could do with some "ports" similar to the Mac ones, to have a 
>> more integrated look. It could be perhaps done for Firefox/Seamonkey and 
>> OpenOffice. With our menu subsystem, app bundles and some integration it 
>> would be nice.
>>
>> Without, it would be a bad advertisement, like the original "GNUstep LiveCD" 
>> ended up to be.
>
> I agree.  The FreeBSD GNUstep packages include a lot of things, but you need 
> to do a lot of tinkering to make them integrate even vaguely with typical 
> environments.  For the ones that we use in the lab, I’ve configured a more 
> modern looking theme[1] and the in-window menus.  With this, the apps still 
> look fairly distinctive, but work quite well and people don’t complain.
>
> The problem is the difficulty of setting this globally.  I’ve not been able 
> to find a good way of setting these globally at all.  The symlink approach to 
> making tools appear in bin/ doesn’t work with rpaths, so I have to manually 
> replace those symlinks with shell scripts anyway and have been able to 
> shoehorn things into that script.  This works well for a single application 
> on a single machine, but is not really a scalable solution.
>
> I would love to be able to ship a port of the GNOME theme that, on 
> installation, would allow GNUstep applications to look and feel like GNOME 
> applications *for all users of the system with no additional configuration*.  
> Without this, it requires *huge* buy-in from potential developers: yes 
> GNUstep may be great, but it’s not great enough to persuade your users to 
> abandon their favourite DE and existing software.
>
> David
>
> [1] With the default GNUstep theme, people assume that the applications are 
> written with tk.  It doesn’t look distinct and NeXT-like to most people, it 
> just looks old.
>
> -- Sent from my PDP-11
>



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Gregory Casamento
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