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Re: ANN: LuserNET 0.4.3

From: Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Subject: Re: ANN: LuserNET 0.4.3
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 19:17:31 +0200

Hi Riccardo,

it's very great to see you and all the others doing great work on and for 
GNUstep. This is said much to seldom, so seldom that some developers think 
about quitting their work on GNUstep. That's why: kudos to everybody who brings 
GNUstep forward.

So now for something different. I, for instance never tried LuserNET and that 
is (and you may call this reason a strange one) because of it's name. That name 
is not actually transporting a positive image, while it might have been thought 
as a joke or some tongue in cheek irony I think it has the same issues like 
those Haxies from Unsanity had ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haxie ): their 
name and their icons implied somehow to expect hackish stuff (which was true to 
some degree, those extensions and their Framework Application Enhancer 
sometimes did borderline stuff which caused crashes, kernel panics, 
incompatibilities and sometimes strange behavior).

So I wonder if this is just me and my weirdness or if we possibly should change 
that name, why not to just UseNet.app? App names for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP and 
later OS X have always been very simple and descriptive like "Mail.app", 
"Address Book.app", "Preview.app", "System Preferences.app" and so on. Why not 
following that style? Even when we prefix all our Apps with "GNU" like "GNU 
Address Book.app" or the like … GNUserNet. app, hehe!



Am 29.03.2015 um 17:05 schrieb Riccardo Mottola:

> Hi all,
> to save it from bitrotting, I imported the latest sources I found (0.4.2) of 
> LuserNET into gnustep-nonfsf, where you can already find pantomime and 
> GNUmail.
> Old LuserNet did contain a lot of bugs and patches were already floating 
> around, like in Debian. The new Pantomime required some updates too or 
> posting would not work.
> You can get it here:
> http://download.gna.org/gnustep-nonfsf/LuserNET-0.4.3.tar.gz
> I haven't created a homepage, the wiki entry is enough, I don't formally take 
> over maintainership either (that's why I did not import it in GAP). I will 
> try to work on it best effort.
> The current version restores the existing functionality but does not fix any 
> older bugs or adds/finishes features. This message has been written with 
> LuserNET itself on my iBook running Debian!
> What's fixed?
> * works with 1.2.2 Pantomime
> * build system fixes
> * use modern runtime functions, so that it can work with current/recent 
> GNUstep
> * many minor and major warning fixes (headers, casts, etc)
> * encoding features originally done by Sergey Golovin
> * encoding fixes to the code above whic was again 7/8 years old
> What remains really to be fixed:
> * Sometimes messages appear with an encoded email and no content and look  
> like random data. I suppose message data is not correctly decoded
> * Some messages appear to have a correct header, but then nothing can be 
> shown and (null) appears in the body.
> Any help investigating the above issues appreciated!
> Less problematic, but still to do  would be to update some of the interface 
> code: the windows sometimes open in unexpected places, for example.
> Still, I think it is better than the old version and so I push it out, if 
> there are still some LuserNET users.
> Riccardo
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