Re: Phoenix language

[Gregory Casamento]

That's quite sad, actually.   But that is also part of the reason I'm
doing this.  There is a mindset against Objective-C at the moment and,
right or wrong, this is the way to address it.

GC

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Robert Slover <rjslover@me.com> wrote:
> <observation>
> For what it is worth, when I attended a recent Cocoa user group meetup, most 
> of the presentations were done in Swift. One of the guys doing his on 
> Objective-C apologized for doing so. Quite frankly, I was surprised. It had 
> been several months since I had attended, and previous presentations were all 
> Obj-C.
> </observation>
>
>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 17:50, Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dr. Schaller,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
>> <hns@computer.org> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>> Am 22.10.2014 um 21:11 schrieb Gregory Casamento 
>>>> <greg.casamento@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Schaller,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
>>>> <hns@computer.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 22.10.2014 um 18:07 schrieb Ivan Vučica <ivan@vucica.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding is that Phoenix is an implementation of Swift and not
>>>>> Objective-C.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shouldn’t they have much code in common (except a different grammar)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you believe that I can reuse anything from it, it would be nice.
>>>
>>> Well, I don’t know what you want to do and achieve and if I remember
>>> correctly there was no deep discussion so far about GNUstep doing
>>> anything with/for the Swift language (although it is quite forcing).
>>
>> There was, in fact, some discussion on these lines.  There were
>> postings to the list about swift when the language was first
>> announced.   The decision at that time was to write one if Apple
>> didn't open theirs.   That is what I'm doing.
>>
>>> Therefore it is difficult to recommend something for reuse.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As you can see in the commit log, Gregory is involved with Phoenix.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, nice to know.
>>>>>
>>>>> How is that related to the GNUstep work? Does it help GNUstep or does it
>>>>> distract Greg
>>>>> from working for GNUstep?
>>>>
>>>> Nope. :)  GNUstep is the main reason I'm doing this.  GNUstep is
>>>> always my first love and concern.
>>>
>>> I appreciate to hear that. It did look for me so far as a completely new
>>> and different project that has nothing in common (except you working
>>> for both). But I know from my projects that the outside view might not
>>> reveal the connections.
>>
>> Swift, as I see it, is important for our future.  Also, I wasn't sure
>> if it was a good idea to put it into GNUstep's repo.  I may still put
>> a version of it there if needed.
>>
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Nikolaus
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> BR,
>>>>> Nikolaus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller 
>>>>> <hns@computer.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> does anyone know more about this project
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       https://source.ind.ie/project/phoenix/tree/master
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and how it relates to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       https://github.com/goldelico/mySTEP/tree/master/ObjC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>> Nikolaus
>>>>>>
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