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Re: IndieTech went well!!


From: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Subject: Re: IndieTech went well!!
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:49:19 +0200


Am 07.07.2014 um 18:41 schrieb Gregory Casamento:

Nikolaus,

On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <address@hidden> wrote:

Am 07.07.2014 um 17:34 schrieb Gregory Casamento:

I'm wondering why this was marked as spam.  

I have received mails from other mailing lists which were also marked as spam (even my own). So it might be some misevaluation by blacklisting data. I have manually removed it from the subject so that it won't be copied again.

​Okay, cool.​
I'll post it again if it was marked as such as it's very important to get the word out. 

I did mention your work on QuantumStep and the phone that you've built.

Fine! Thanks.


​You're very welcome.   I think it will be good to re-examine the changes made in QuantumStep to see how they can be of help.​
  The issue IndiePhone is trying to solve is different than issue yours was trying to solve.

The problem is that they are not open enough to really describe what they are planning and doing. So it is difficult to comment that (without introducing speculation).


​I think saying they're not open enough is very premature given that the entire focus of the project is on being as open as possible and because not much has been clearly defined yet. :)

Well, then *open* is not the right wording...

What I mean is that I can't find enough definitve information on the web to evaluate if they really do something differently or what really is planned. So far I see a lot of overlap with the OpenMoko/OpenPhoenux communities.

And from the claim that indiephone *does* things differently than everyone before, I conclude/assume/hope that they must have a quite specific plan and a solution to those issues why OpenPhoenux doesn't "rule the free world" yet. One is obvoius (almost the same as for GNUstep vs. Cocoa): behind indiephone are people doing better marketing and visual design.

  IndiePhone is trying to fix the issue of privacy on mobile devices.  
In general the Openmoko and OpenPhoenux communities tried and still try to solve the same issues, but we learned that it is such a huge problem to make everything right from the beginning that one problem must be solved after the other. This might make it look as if there is not the same goal.

​I'm sure that we can learn a lot from the efforts of both of these communities.​

I think there is always the other way round: participate and bring forward communities that already exist :) I already have invited Aral to the OpenPhoenux.org community. And I would be happy to learn a lot from the indiephone initiative. That is why I ask so curiously as you have just met this team face to face (Aral asked me to come but it was much too short notice to even find a substitute).

But IMHO this is a discussion going far beyond "discuss-GNUstep" and should be continued elsewhere.

I will be looking at the optimizations that exist in QuantumStep for guidance as I move forward on this project.

Ah, did they invite you to work for indiephone?

​Yes.

Fine!

BR,
Nikolaus

BR,
Nikolaus



Greg 


On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <address@hidden> wrote:

Am 06.07.2014 um 09:39 schrieb Gregory Casamento <address@hidden>:

Hey guys.  Just wanted to let you all know that the indie tech summit was a success. GNUstep may play a large part in the indie phone.

It is difficult to find out what they are really doing, so I hope that they got an understanding that QuantumSTEP is much better optimised for a phone GUI than standard GNUstep…

Please see http://ind.ie/phone

I'll give you guys more details via postings here and on my blog.  At the moment I am on a bus back to Heathrow airport. 

Brighton is a fascinating town. It was a pleasure staying there.  I can't wait to visit England again.  

:)

BR,
Nikolaus




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Gregory Casamento
Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant
yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa
(240)274-9630 (Cell)
http://www.gnustep.org
http://heronsperch.blogspot.com


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