Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but it did help things...

[James Carthew]

Actually at first boot I didn't mean distro level. I just meant the first time you load the gnustep environment it should ask you about the window style you prefer. Distro management belongs with OSX/windows/FreeBSD/Debian/Ubuntu etc I do think that a gnustep session (etoile) should be a bigger priority than it currently is. I think etoile gets bogged down trying to be better than os rather than just working now and fixing those problems later.

On Saturday, December 21, 2013, Germán Arias  wrote:
> On 2013-12-20 17:09:43 -0600 Doc O'Leary <droleary@7usenet2013.subsume.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Gregory can put on his GNUstep Maintainer hat and say 'we should implement
> >> UIKit', but it has no effect unless someone actually does the work.
> >> Implementing UIKit is more work than one person can do by themselves.
> >
> > Again with the stupid rush to implement things . . .
>
> Remember that, in general, write free software is a hobby. Just to see
> what happens.
>
> >
> > Here's a radical idea: why not actually evaluate the goal first?  Before
> > throwing people at the problem, figure out what good reason there was (if
> > any) for Apple to go UIKit for mobile development instead of just expanding
> > the AppKit API.  Perhaps the right thing to do for GNUstep doesn't involve
> > *any* coders.
> >
> >> Talk on a mailing list is cheap.
> >
> > And yet so much more valuable than aimless code.
> >
>
> "More valuable" is subjective.
>
> >> If you're complaining that no one else is, then you're not contributing
> >> anything useful.
> >
> > Nonsense.  Only a fool thinks that more monkeys sitting at typewriters is the
> > way to get better books.  If you sincerely don't see the point of debating
> > the correctness of an approach, my opinion of FreeBSD is greatly reduced.
> >
> >> Open source projects are not created for users, they're created for
> >> contributors.
> >
> > More rubbish.  Or, rather, incredibly sad if true.  I mean, who exactly are
> > you being "open" to if you're all being that selfishly insular?  Is this
> > seriously the thinking behind FreeBSD?
>
> Contribute to a free software project isn't a job is, in general, for fun.
>
> >
> >> Contributors may be ones who donate code, artwork, documentation, or money.
> >
> > If that's the direction GNUstep chooses to go, that is not a cult I want to
> > be part of *ever*.  I take too much joy in seeing regular people benefit from
> > my work.
> >
> >> If you want to set an agenda for ANY open source project, you need to
> >> contribu
>
>
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