Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website...

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi,

Hi,

I often complained that our buglist is bad publicity for us, however, 
the way you state things is a bit misdechieving.

Graham Lee wrote:
> On 20 Dec 2013, at 12:00, Richard Frith-Macdonald 
> <richardfrithmacdonald@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I appreciate that position, and it means that there must be a disconnect between 
> what maintainers see as an active project that’s accepting patches and what 
> contributors see, which is a long stale list of open bug reports and unaccepted 
> patches. More to limit the scope of a search than out of selfishness, I decided to 
> look at patches I’d submitted. There are 12 open items, with the earliest submitted 
> on Feb 17 2012. Of these 12 items, 3 are marked Fixed (but still open) and one Ready 
> for Test (which has actually been integrated). One of the remaining 8 has a question 
> to me that I haven’t followed up on yet, the remaining 7 have never had anything 
> happen since submission. So if I need to "revise them, assign copyright, or 
> even just clarify their intentions”, the communication I’ve had isn’t making that at 
> all obvious for half of the submissions. Rather, you can come to savannah and see 
> this:
patches also flow on the mailing list, remember. about thousands of bugs 
on gnustep, you are citing a couple of dozens.
> 1. GNUstep has loads of open bugs, some of which haven’t been touched in years.
> 2. Half of those bugs have never even been acknowledged or triaged.
> 3. Oh, actually when I dig in a little I see that some of the open bugs have 
> actually been fixed. Should I work on a patch for this other thing or has it 
> actually been fixed and no-one updated the database?
Of course you see open bugs! the fixed ones get closed! In fact we see 
that we have 1477 closed bugs. 72 declined bugs.

If a bug is "fixed" or better "ready to test", it means that the 
original author should check wether the problem has been solved and 
report back.

Users aren't very responsive either. Bugs need to be ack'd from time to 
time by the original author it is not drop-n-forget.

We have 76 bugs in test. Some of them have been partially solved, but 
the fix is not what has been expected or some kind of discussion arose.

E.g. the bug you reported:
https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?37709

does it still apply to you? are you able to use gnutls? I am, but you? 
in case, please answer if the problem has been solved or not.


I was already discussing with Gregory that we need to do some cleanup 
and check what is valid or not. But collaboration starts from here.


Riccardo