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Re: Themes (again)


From: Riccardo Mottola
Subject: Re: Themes (again)
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:41:18 +0200
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Hi,

Slex Sangiuliano wrote:

I use it EVERY day as production system, it is quite stable. I can develop, study, surf the internet, play flash game (is not true I don't play them, but I could if just I want)

Nice to read that it works for you.

I hope that soon you can remove Xchat from the screenshots, talksoup is to 99% working again... just doing some "burn in test" :)
The GWorkspace: I use it every days, to me is stable, but it falls in easy things: If an App is running if you click again on it on the Dock, a message will appear saying: "The app seems to hang", then it will be closed and restarted. I would want that if an app is running, it will be not terminated but just all its windows shown (or the principal one), how to do that? Just a flag..
Actually it should just "connect" to the running app. You can't start an apptwice in gnustep, if you try, you will get the same app in foreground... and you souldn't get a "hang" message either... Certainly it shouldn't be terminated at all, there is no termination, so I guess something is wrong (and perhaps should be discussed out of this thread).
-(BOOL)isRunning then if yes show window(s) else run the app.
Also, I noticed Gworkspace handles files based on the extensions. I mean, if there is an extension for e.g. jpg it will open the jpg with PRICE (I use it), if no extension is present on a file, it will open it with the default TextEditor (Gemas to me); this means that if the file is a giant binary, GWorspace wll try to open it with Gemas, and... it will hangs until all the billions of unreadable characters are loaded in the text editor, often this means the crash of the GWorkspace after minutes of waiting (And I tested it more then one time).
NSDocument is based on extensions indeed.

It is interesting that when we have these "generic" "I wish" threads that happen on kickstarter project, themes, other discussion, a lot of things get out and discussed randomly, problems issues, that can't be easy solved. Most often however the mailing list is dormant and people get no replies to their few emails... Our ML is very strange in this regard.

Nice that you use PRICE :) I'm trying to fix something in a new cool feature I'm develpoing, but I am unable to get it to work and this blocks a new release :(

My opinion on the theme: I'm trying to expose GNUstep to people, in my University and thinkig to open a site with video tuorial on how to install it, developing with it etc etc. They are qquite excited when I talk of " an OO frameworg Cocoa compatible", but when they see the classic theme their face seems a piece of ice and also to me someone sayd "it looks like 80's late". So if you want to believe or not, a new and modern theme is needed, but this doesn't mean that the classic one have to be trashed, but just give the possibility to the people to choose between the old_classic one and the modern_classic one. This is not a thing I'm asking, is a thing that users and potential developers are asking, developers will not develop app that no one will use just because it looks like 80's, it's a waste of time.
That's the point, having both. I have read recently also on OpenBSD mailing list that people look getting a simple, professional evnironment becasue they are tired of the latest Mac or Windows. However others want the look or custiomization. I played with themes when I was at the university.. many years ago, i confessed!

I suppose that switching themes is really easy enough with SystemPreferences., but we need the themes :)

Riccardo



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