Re: Gnustep Window Manager

[James Carthew]

thanks Dave, I wasn't aware that ProjectManager was a window manager. I've just gotten into the SVN tree and taken a look at it. I'll probably end up contributing either to ProjectManager or Window Maker. Definitely looks like other people are having similar ideas.

On 20 March 2013 07:22, David Chisnall <theraven@sucs.org> wrote:

Hi James,

Since you're already aware of Étoilé, don't forget that we have ProjectManager in subversion, which is an unfinished window manager that intends to be visually minimalist.

David

On 19 Mar 2013, at 16:27, James Carthew <jcarthew@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's things like X11 applications being allowed to be dragged over the menubar (stopping this from happening), certain menu behaviour that I've noticed in Window Maker, inconsistency in Window Maker's right click menus when used with themes in GNUstep, a system preferences panel etc. mainly aesthetic issues etc. Mainly a way to detect the menu location and stopping other apps from writing over it. Admittedly a way to handle non gnustep applications so they get a macintosh style menu would be nice, even if it was just having the program name appear on the horizontal menubar at the top of the screen. I'm happy to have a look at coding some of these features. Ideally there would be a web browser to go with this but I would probably just try to resurrect Mantella from Etoile rather than coding the entire webkit engine, as I just don't have the knowledge to complete a project of that size. I'm also trying to rework parts of GSMplayer as I previously worked on gnome-mplayer and with about 5 patches made that project popular (tv tuner support, language/subtitle selection, aspect ratio support etc in the gui). I'd like to get to a point where I can fire up X11/GNUstep and not need third party apps unless I have an unusual task (think gimp/music production etc) since most of my desktop usage is internet browsing, irc, chat and music/videos.
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> On 20 March 2013 06:56, James Carthew <jcarthew@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's things like X11 applications being allowed to be dragged over the menubar (stopping this from happening), certain menu behaviour that I've noticed in Window Maker, inconsistency in Window Maker's right click menus when used with themes in GNUstep, a system preferences panel etc. mainly aesthetic issues etc. Mainly a way to detect the menu location and stopping other apps from writing over it. Admittedly a way to handle non gnustep applications so they get a macintosh style menu would be nice, even if it was just having the program name appear on the horizontal menubar at the top of the screen. I'm happy to have a look at coding some of these features. Ideally there would be a web browser to go with this but I would probably just try to resurrect Mantella from Etoile rather than coding the entire webkit engine, as I just don't have the knowledge to complete a project of that size. I'm also trying to rework parts of GSMplayer as I previously worked on gnome-mplayer and with about 5 patches made that project popular (tv tuner support, language/subtitle selection, aspect ratio support etc in the gui). I'd like to get to a point where I can fire up X11/GNUstep and not need third party apps unless I have an unusual task (think gimp/music production etc) since most of my desktop usage is internet browsing, irc, chat and music/videos.
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> On 20 March 2013 01:44, Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mottola@libero.it> wrote:
> Hi James,
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> On 03/18/13 22:45, James Carthew wrote:
> Hi guys, I'm interested in using GNUstep as a desktop environment and I'd like to make the system a bit more integrated with the window manager etc. I've noticed that there are three ways to use the GUI environment as Windows style, Mac OSX style and as the older NEXT stye, but the Window managers available only seem to cater for the Windows or NEXT styles of window management. I'd like to write a newer window manager that handles configuration using the Defaults system and which would support better integration/awareness of the horizontal menu bar when it's enabled. Would anyone else be interested in this project?
> What is exactly your need and your desire? Do you want windowmaker and GS to blend better and what "features" do you need in windowmaker? O do you want GS to blend in environment X, where is is gnome, unity, whatever? Usually those will have their windowmanager.
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> Personally I can live quite well with WindowMaker, it is suboptimal, in that it uses WINGs and essentially the only thing I miss would be a preferences app written in GNUstep itself. In al later stage, use GS to "draw" things in windowmaker (like its menus) using GNUste, so that you would end up having only "one" draw code, thus that colors, fonts and themes would apply altogether.
> But I put these projects in the "low priority" list for now.
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> I may ad also that GS could do almost without windowmanager, the support it needs is very minimal: it can draw its own window decorations. It needs support in  X11 for window ordering, events, focus. But you still want to have a "full" windowmanager otherwise you could not have other applications running along (e.g. Firefox)
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