Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

[Markus Hitter]

Sergii, please see below.


Am 09.10.2009 um 17:34 schrieb Gregory Casamento:

> > Command line stuff is - well many users don't
> > know what a command line is, after all.
>
> ??  I'm not sure what you mean here.

Well, malfunctions in GNUstep are often answered by a few text  
commands which fix things. For example, Wolfgang Lux explained just  
yesterday how to fix services in Terminal.app.

While Terminal.app is a special case in this regard, you can't expect  
users to fix things by typing commands in a shell. Things are either  
figured by the app without user interaction (preferred), or need a GUI.



Am 09.10.2009 um 18:15 schrieb Sergii Stoian:

> Markus, why do you think that users of Xfce/KDE/GNOME should bother  
> on GNUstep applications at all?

Because quite a few nice applications are written in GNUstep. Think  
about GNUmail, it has just the right design for users used to Apple  
Mail.

Think about TextEdit, which roughly matches Apple's TextEdit and can  
(well, should be able to) handle the RTF format.

Think about all those Cocoa apps out there just waiting to be ported  
to Linux or *BSD. There are plenty.


> If you want GNUstep apps to fit into Xfce/KDE/GNOME then you need  
> to change not only look (scrollbars, menu style, etc.) but also  
> FEEL of applications.

For now I think it would be a big step forward if GNUstep wouldn't  
conflict with other desktops. If the dock-like miniwindows can be  
turned off, please do so by default in a Gnome or KDE environment.  
For the window containing the menu, respect the bars on top and on  
bottom of the screen. If the current desktop has scroll bars on the  
right, put them there in GNUstep apps as well.

> Does GNUstep applications should look & feel as Qt and GTK+ apps?

There's no need to give up on the traditional behaviour for those  
prefering it.


> Using GNUstep applications in, for example, GNOME is stupid.

Ouch.


Markus

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