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Re: The importance of civil communication on the list (was Re: Fucked up


From: Gregory John Casamento
Subject: Re: The importance of civil communication on the list (was Re: Fucked up gnustep-make)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:51:38 -0800 (PST)

Jeff,

Because when you start using profanity it's very easy for the conversation to 
immediately degenerate into insults and personal attacks.   

As far as I'm concerned, do whatever you like.  I, like you am expressing my 
opinion, be that as it may.

Later, GJC
--
Gregory Casamento

----- Original Message ----
From: Jeff Teunissen <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:32:59 AM
Subject: Re: The importance of civil communication on the list (was Re: Fucked 
up gnustep-make)

Gregory John Casamento wrote:
> All,
> 
> While I realize this is an open forum, it makes us look really unprofessional
> to have profanity in the subject lines or in the messages.   I would 
> appreciate
> it if we all could please make our communications on the list free of 
> profanity.

Why, why WHY in the name of all that is good should anyone in a Free Software
project act professional? It's not a company, it's a hobby. Nobody's getting
paid by FSF to write GNUstep code. Should we all censor ourselves, putting
more effort into the _protocol_ of communicating with each other than into the
content of that communication?

I'm not defending cbv's message; it was stupid, but understandable--people say
stupid things when they're angry. Note, here, that I'm not calling Chris
stupid, just angry. Should he not be angry? And if he is, why shouldn't he
express it--because it was written by volunteers? Bah, you (generic "you", not
any particular person) don't work for him any more than he works for you.

And hell, professionals argue too. I've seen fistfights break out over
technical problems, because of a too-constrained atmosphere. When you're not
allowed to express your strong feelings about technical matters, you have a
situation where instead of resolving the technical problems you get building
PERSONAL problems. People wind up hating each other over shit that only needs
a quick argument to solve.

Personal attacks are unacceptable no matter who does it, or in what
situation...but technical stuff is fair game no matter what language is used
about it.

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