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Re: Cocotron


From: Gregory John Casamento
Subject: Re: Cocotron
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 07:56:02 -0800 (PST)

Lacking encoding, perhaps.   Lacking key elements of nib decoding doesn't make 
sense at all.    Their example may work, but I have a feeling that many, more 
complex apps, won't.
 
GJC

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Gregory Casamento
## GNUstep Chief Maintainer

----- Original Message ----
From: Renaud Molla <renaud.molla@wanadoo.fr>
To: Gregory John Casamento <greg_casamento@yahoo.com>; discuss-gnustep@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:52:25 AM
Subject: Re: Cocotron

These lacks seem somewhat "logical" within their goal that seems to  
be enabling cross compilations from Mac OS X to Windows, and
the use of OS X tools to create software.


On Dec 26, 2006, at 4:47 PM, Gregory John Casamento wrote:

> Actually, after a second look the nib does contain the  
> connections.   I'm not sure why I didn't see them at first.
>
> From looking at the decoding logic, there are keys missing in  
> classes such as NSCell and others.   The nib decoding isn't  
> complete and the encoding is not present.
>
> GJC
>
> --
> Gregory Casamento
> ## GNUstep Chief Maintainer
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Renaud Molla <renaud.molla@wanadoo.fr>
> To: discuss-gnustep@gnu.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:22:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Cocotron
>
> First of all,
> I join the cocotron thread after several posts and may say things
> already said in previous messages.
>
> I tried the cocotron textedit example, and to be true, i first
> thought this was an hoax since I downloaded it and it worked as is.
> So i changed the NIB with Interface Builder to check this was really
> true, addes a Label and A button,
> and it worked, so i guess claims that they're experiencing nib
> reading problems can't be totally true.
>
> What stroke me (positively) is that their example worked after
> unzipping, nothing more to do.
> The application integrates well within the OS look and feel, i mean,
> I'm a mac os x user and really like
> the top menu bar and the floating menu concept of openstep, but to
> most windows or other APIs (gtk/kde/etc...)
> with menus right below the title bar, the menus are rather reluctant.
> (what a pity however).
>
> I think it really is straightforward to see that cocotron and gnustep
> do not share the same goals.
> They must have common "subprojects" in order to comply with the
> OpenStep specifications,
> but it is clear that the end user/deployment philosophy is not the  
> same.
>
> Renaud.
>
>
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