Re: Re: Look and Feel

[Rogelio M . Serrano Jr .]

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On 2005-02-19 16:26:41 +0800 Jason Clouse <jhclouse@charter.net> wrote:

> On 2005-02-19 01:49:11 -0500 Banlu Kemiyatorn <object@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:46:35 -0500, Jason Clouse 
> > <jhclouse@charter.net> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If Camaelon is bundled with -core and the option to change theme is
> > > the first thing a user sees, fine.  If someone downloads a tarball,
> > > installs it, and sees nothing but grey, they'll be disappointed.
> >
> > Why core? Why not Etoile?
>
> Because it doesn't exist.  And because people are not directed to 
> download 
> Etoile.  They are directed to download -core.  Once Etoile is highly 
> publicized and it is nearly impossible to simply download -core and 
> install, 
> this will be a good solution.  Perhaps we can stop putting GNUstep 
> forward as 
> a project and replace it in marketing literature with the desktop 
> effort?
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I dont think you get it. This is a development list. People who use
gnustep and related software now should be mostly testers and
developers. It is up to distributions to cater to users who has no
motivation to download and install from tarballs.

I do believe that most of the concerns in this thread can only be
addressed if someone starts building a GNUstep based distribution.
Some sort of nextstep clone or a suite to replace everything on top of
windows solaris mac or linux. Otherwise GNUstep based apps will be
like a sore thumb running alongside gnome kde or otherwise native
apps. Half measures will not work. Well a forked gnustep that uses
native widgets and native behaviour just might.

I am very biased towards a gnustep based distro like a nextstep clone
running on linux.

I dont think people will complain about the color of the desktop when
the system is considered as a whole. Who cares if the scroll bars are
to the left or a little too dark grey when they can easily click on
icons, easily find their files, easily organize all their data any way
they want and do all this very fast. What matters is how the whole
system works together in a consistent manner. We dont need a few
killer apps. We need many small apps that add specific features that
work together. That way the whole system is the killer app.

Sorry for being OT but thats the big picture for me.

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