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Re: Compiling from scratch.
Re: Compiling from scratch.
Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:23:42 +0000
First, thanks for sending in the patch ... on visual inspection it
looks fine to me,
please keep it up and don't get discouraged.
On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 07:49 PM, Ian Jones wrote:
On 2003-10-25 13:36:27 +0000 Martin Brecher
Pascal J.Bourguignon wrote:
| The fact is that ffcall 1.8d IS installed:
I just updated from CVS and now base's configure won't find my ffcall,
as well, nor ffi.
I don't know what to say other than I'm very unhappy about this, I
sent a fix yesterday that only changed base configure so that it would
try to use ffi if the default ffcall could not be found, which means
that my patch as it was never made it into CVS but someones own
implementation of what they thought was a fix and again without
testing it even compiled / worked.
I find that a somewhat harsh/unwarrented assumption. Just because it
didn't work for some people, doesn't mean that it was untested ... just
incompletely tested. The impression given by the phrase 'without
testing it even compiled/worked' is that you thing the person didn't
even bother, when in all likelihood they tested it one way, but didn't
think to test another way. I *think* from my memory of looking at the
code, the faulty change would have appeared to work properly if tested
on a system without ffcall but with ffi ... and since it was meant to
correct a problem on just such systems, my guess is that it was tested
Certainly, not testing *well enough* is a problem, but we should not
assume that we are looking at a situation of complete carelessness just
because something gets missed.
This only one or two days after all the expressed frustration on this
list, some of it about the quality of what people are producing or
commiting to CVS.
I really understand the frustration that Chris Vetter feels at this
moment in time. I'm not much of a developer but I am a perl programmer
/ web developer by trade and I'd like to think that I'm capable of
making minor alterations to a shell script without making a total mess
of it. As with Chris, I find myself in a positon where I think, well,
why should I bother if people aren't going to use what I spend my time
doing to try and help? Should I contribute anything else or just go
back to complaining?
Please contribute ... most complaints come from people who don't
contribute or contribute very little ... and that doesn't help at all!
The reason your stuff didn't get used was because someone got there
first with what was thought to be a fix ... so your fix never got
looked at, This sort of timing thing is not an issue if people
actually use the bug tracking system on savannah. For small issues
mentioned on mailing lists, it is better if people send an immediate
email to say they will deal with the problem ... but people (and I
include myself) hardly ever remember/think to do that.
- - Martin
Sorry to add more fuel to the fire but I am very very dissapointed.
Don't get discouraged .