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Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality contr

From: Philip Mötteli
Subject: Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:04:04 +0200

Am Mittwoch, 22.10.03, um 22:30 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Philippe C.D. Robert:
On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 11:34  Uhr, Philip Mötteli wrote:
2. Many programs do not use AppKit. E. g. servers and Web-programs.

I know, there is a shortage of GNUstep apps, but you gotta admit that a LOT of progress has been made this year!

The hugest prograss is having WOF: GDL2 and GSWeb.

This is your opinion. There are others, of course.

If you have read my postings, than you have surely noticed, that I started my posting with "just my 2c"? Ok. So if you excuse me of not having repeated this in every second phrase for you. And in any case, you don't need to remind me, that this is my opinion. Be assured, I know that.

Besides it is funny that you mention these 2, as they are not part of OpenStep at all,

This is out of the context: I never said GDL or GSW are part of OpenStep, but a big reason to make GS more widely known and used. That's unfair to produce the impression, I could have said that. Are you trying to let me look stupid?

while in another mail you wrote:

Actually, you got exactly the point here: It's an API. It's the API called OpenStep. It's actually not a desktop, nor a filemanager, nor a project management tool, nor anthing else (though some programs are needed to be there, in order that this API makes sense, like pb-server). Because we it's "only" an API, we have it also on >> Windows.

No, we do not have it on Windows, we have only parts of it working on Windows, maybe we will have it at some point in the future. Maybe not. So much about cross-platform API.

Again, have you read my postings? Please don't pronounce any opinion under your name, if you didn't read what your talking about: I've been initally talking about the most (in my eyes (just for you Phil!)) important thing to do concerning GS: completing and debugging GS on all platforms. With that, I specifically meant the version for Windows. Basically that's why I made this statement: Before making whole GS distributions and desktops and so on, we should complete, where the real point of GS as an OpenStep implementation is. But you didn't read that part, did you? But still making comments here? I don't feel good in correcting such comments, that make me look so stupid. Makes me aggressive, I'm sorry.

Moreover, how can an API only make sense if it requires tools like pb-server? This indicates to me that it actually is more than an API.

Why? An API offers a functionality. That's perhaps the reason, why it's not called a library. Apart from that, if you don't agree with the naming, then ask NeXT or Apple. They called it like that.

You have me wondering… What are you thinking of?
i'm making SimplyGNUstep
Nice, but how is the compatibility to the other managers like KDE? Unfortunately, most of the programs I use, are made for Gnome or KDE.

Are you using them because you have no better alternative or are you using them because they perfectly fit your needs?

I don't think that ever a program will perfectly fit my needs. It's always the best alternative, that I choose. Everything is relative here.


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