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Re: Shared application menu
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Alex Perez |
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Re: Shared application menu |
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Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:37:29 -0700 (PDT) |
Sorry for topposting, but for the sake of clarification, Banlu is NOT
referring to a "tool bar" in the NSToolbar or GNUmail toolbar sense, he is
in fact referring to HORIZONTAL MENUS, which is what he means when he
referrs to the "Apple Logo/Menu", which is on the menu bar at the
uppermost left of the screen on OS X systems.
Alex
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Banlu Kemiyatorn wrote:
> Dirk Olmes wrote:
>
> > Argh! Make my eyes stop bleeding :-)
> > I don't like the concept of using the top of the screen for a toolbar.
> > IMHO the toolbar should belong to the window / app that's using it but
> > I guess that's the same holy war as with menus. I would absolutely
> > hate to lose the top x pixels of the screen for a toolbar that would
> > even be *blank* (i.e. gray space) in a lot of cases.
>
> You are right, I was thinking of that before I post that too. But after
> looking at my current desktop
> I found that most of my applications has tool bar. And to advocate 'tool
> base environment' idea,
> I think that every window should try to implement some tools. The tool
> bar may not be that waste,
> for instant, you can simply hide it if there is no tool available. (Yes
> I said that and realized sliding bar
> sucks in many case) Or you can atleast has a small GNUstep logo placed
> where the Apple has on
> OS X so the empty area isn't too lonely. Or even have a default tool bar
> per application that icon grayed
> out when the current window doesn't recognize the message (kinda like
> menu entry, thus this could be
> confusing but I just can't consider it is until I did a real experiment
> with it.)
>
> The most interesting part of tool bar to me is that user can rearrange
> items to suite their best preferences,
> so it supposed to be accessed more often than any kind of menu (vertical
> and horisontal) while taking
> full advantage from edge's screen according to fitt's laws.
>
> From above, I also think of replacing right-click menu with a pie menu
> representing tools instead
> of the actual app menu. But this directly hurt pure OpenStep people
> (those I want to reserve their
> feeling for the most) and should be treated as another issue ;-)
>
> >
> > I can't imagine how this toolbar thing would require a shared
> > application menu/app.
>
> Right. That's another issue though.
>
> >
> > -dirk
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Shared application menu, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf, 2003/10/08
Re: Shared application menu, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf, 2003/10/08