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Re: Shared application menu

From: Banlu Kemiyatorn
Subject: Re: Shared application menu
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:14:21 +0700
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Dirk Olmes wrote:

Argh! Make my eyes stop bleeding :-)
I don't like the concept of using the top of the screen for a toolbar. IMHO the toolbar should belong to the window / app that's using it but I guess that's the same holy war as with menus. I would absolutely hate to lose the top x pixels of the screen for a toolbar that would even be *blank* (i.e. gray space) in a lot of cases.

You are right, I was thinking of that before I post that too. But after looking at my current desktop I found that most of my applications has tool bar. And to advocate 'tool base environment' idea, I think that every window should try to implement some tools. The tool bar may not be that waste, for instant, you can simply hide it if there is no tool available. (Yes I said that and realized sliding bar sucks in many case) Or you can atleast has a small GNUstep logo placed where the Apple has on OS X so the empty area isn't too lonely. Or even have a default tool bar per application that icon grayed out when the current window doesn't recognize the message (kinda like menu entry, thus this could be confusing but I just can't consider it is until I did a real experiment with it.)

The most interesting part of tool bar to me is that user can rearrange items to suite their best preferences, so it supposed to be accessed more often than any kind of menu (vertical and horisontal) while taking
full advantage from edge's screen according to fitt's laws.

From above, I also think of replacing right-click menu with a pie menu representing tools instead of the actual app menu. But this directly hurt pure OpenStep people (those I want to reserve their
feeling for the most) and should be treated as another issue ;-)

I can't imagine how this toolbar thing would require a shared application menu/app.

Right. That's another issue though.


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