Re: NSWorkspace launchedApplications method

[Stefan Urbanek]

On 2003-06-17 11:57:10 +0200 Alexander Malmberg <alexander@malmberg.org> wrote:

> Stefan Urbanek wrote:
> > Well, this and many other unimplemented or wrongly working
> > stuff in NSWorkspace and -gui is The Reason for either:
> > 1. Integrate Worskpace.app into gnustep and make it implement
> > the real functionality of NSWorkspace class
> > or
> > 2. Create workspace daemon with all NSWorkspace functionality
> > and NSWorkspace notification center. Make Workspace.app be a
> > graphical wrapper around this daemon/DO server.
>
> Neither makes any sense for a "development environment", though.

Hm, why not? I see gnustep as development and operating/working environment in 
one. You can remove development part when you are distributing yor software. 
Why do you think that it makes no sense to have such server? I see gnustep env. 
being composed of such servers. They are 'live' objects providing services. 
Yes, it is odd to see applications using services of others in the old 
environment where all programs are using just passive libraries.

> [snip]
> >    From this is obvious, that GNUstep is not just a set of libraries
> > and programs, but Integrated (Development) Environment composed of
> > 'live objects' aka servers and 'passive classes' aka frameworks.
> > Well, -base can be considered as separate ramework, however -gui is
> > no more just a framework. It cannot exist without supporting
> > processes and resources. Same for applications. Each part of the
> > enviornment is like human organ - organ cannot live without the
> > body and body cannot live without the organ.
>
> This is true, -gui without a desktop environment is very awkward.
> However, since GNUstep is a development environment and not a desktop
> environment, I think it would be best to simply not implement the
> desktop-ish (like most of NSWorkspace) parts in GNUstep. Any
> implementation in a "development environment" is going to be crippled by
> that, so it'll just get in the way when desktops try to do things right.

Desktop environment or development evironment? Both? None? Well, the 'desktop' 
is not quite the right name, anyway ... As i have said before, i think that 
gnustep is both ... or ... something totaly different than we know from other 
environments, something that cannot be compared to standard desktop 
environments or other development environments.

Stefan Urbanek
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