Re: Gnustep Applications blocking Adobe Applications on Windows...

[Roland Schwingel]

Hi...

aheppel@web.de wrote on 27.05.2003 16:25:41:
> I don't know which version of Windows you are running, but this 
mechanism was
> at least there until NT 4.0 (the last Windows I work with).
I tested NT4/2000/XP. All the same problems, for all the same change helped.

> And it was not  just there, but the common way to implement sockets.
> NT 4.0 also know the BSD style of programming with sockets, but noone
> at M$ really told you about that.
> I have no idea how this is today. But I couls imagine that the BSD 
API is
> still there as even the windows events based way to do it, behind the 
scenes
> came down to using BSD sockets. It was just a convenient (no flaming, 
please)
> encapsulation. So, I can imagine that the BSD style API still 
existsand could
> be used.
As far as I am informed - using the window to get sockets running is a 
relict from
Win 3.11. It should work perfeclty without. And as far as I could test 
yet GNUstep
has no problems living without it (I can't test DO, but usual operations 
are working
as before)

> However, I have no idea, why opening a window (which is not so 
uncommon ;-)
> can block other apps. And if you say it's particularly Adobe apps,
> methinks it has something to do with what Adobe is doing.
Of course Adobe is doing not so nice things here, but IMHO it is also bad
when GNUstep code cannot coexist with applications like Photoshop or 
Acrobat.
And I am sure they will not change their code to adopt to GNUstep. Sun 
had similar
problems with JDK1.2 and they where forced to fix this... But to what I 
know the window
is redundant at all, so removing will cause no harm and fix this oddity...

Maybe it is the association of the created window to the dll or the 
"GnustepBaseSocketHandler"
windowclass also defined in this file, describing this windows class. 
After creation there are no
messages to this windows (at least gnustep_base_socket_handler() is not 
called when Photoshop starts).
I tried a lot of things changing this window but nothing helped....

Any further thoughts?

Roland