RE: [LinuxSTEP-General] Tabs & Tabbed Browsing

[Stefan Urbanek]

Hi,

On 2003-04-29 16:19:31 +0200 "Mondragon, Ian" <ian.mondragon@bankofamerica.com> 
wrote:

> this seems like a good time to bring this up...
>
> i've been tossing around the idea of bringing tabbed windows ala pwm/fluxbox
> into interfacewm for quite some time.  opinions?

Just my opinion...

Tabs and tab-browsing is a solution for unsufficient window management. 
Tab-browsing can be replaced by couple of good window-management functions. 
Instead of tabbed browsing you can have window lists where you can select one 
or more windows and do operations like:
- bring to front
- send to back
- order out
- tile vertically/horizontally
- cascade
- align (by some side/corner)
- close
- minimize
- move to another list/group
- ...
Windows are just like papers on your table, and those window lists are folders 
where you can order and group windows. You can treat windows as objects in 
vector drawing application...

I think that a good design of such window lists (small window managers or 
window folders) can be better than tabbed windows. Moreover tabbed windows are 
confusing for ordinary users anyway (what is a window? what is a tab? what is 
the difference? why are those tabs grouped and those are not? ...). With such 
window lists you give mechanisms to the users to manage windows as they want.

Stefan

> - ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   From: Erik [mailto:dalen@jpl.se]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:00 AM
> To: LinuxSTEP General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [LinuxSTEP-General] Tabs & Tabbed Browsing
>
>
> you mean like PWM:
> http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/
>
> Screenshot:
> http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/screenshots/pwm-3.jpg
>
> /Erik
>
> On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 19:35, HippieJack wrote:
> > Tabs are useful. BUT Tabs are bad. they add unnecisary inconcistency to the 
> > interface. Extra shortcuts emerge for navigating them, and those are different 
> > in every tabs enebeld app.
> >
> > So I suggest:
> >
> > Grouped windows. -->shortcuts for cycling through and close/zoom/minimize are 
> > the same. The only difference is that you can organize your windows by dragging 
> > them onto the titlebar of another, and so group them together as in this sample I 
> > made.
> > It's not representive, bad designed, but it's a good illustaration of my idea.
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> >
> > I think we should implement this in linuxSTEP.
> >
> > Comments please...
> >
> > Greetz Jack
> >
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