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Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?
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Philippe C.D. Robert |
Subject: |
Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible? |
Date: |
Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:54:40 +0200 |
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote:
> On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 08:53 AM, Philippe C.D. Robert wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Jeff Teunissen wrote:
> >> "Philippe C.D. Robert" wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Jeff Teunissen wrote:
> >>>> Gregory Casamento wrote:
> >>>>> So long as Cocoa is a proper superset of the spec, it strictly
> >>>>> speaking
> >>>>> (no pun intended ;) ) remains an OpenStep implementation. I also
> >>>>> think that if certain parts of it have been done away with that it's
> >>>>> still fair to consider it an OpenStep implementation since the spec
> >>>>> hasn't been updated for almost eight years.
> >>>>
> >>>> Apple do not seem to be even _considering_ OpenStep. The new stuff
> >>>> they've
> >>>> created has a rather different API style, and the new classes are
> >>>> substantially overengineered when compared to the OpenStep
> >>>> philosophy (and
> >>>> the Unix philosophy, for that matter).
> >>>
> >>> What do you mean by that? Cocoa is still OpenStep wrt previously
> >>> existng
> >>> APIs, of course they add new stuff which cannot be OpenStep, but I
> >>> consider this is a GoodThing - the OpenStep spec is 8 years old and a
> >>> lot has changed since then (I don't say every addition they made is
> >>> good
> >>> or necessary, though...). Now if the new classes are well designed or
> >>> not I cannot judge, I never used them so far...
> >>
> >> In Cocoa, Apple have changed (and continue to change) the existing
> >> APIs.
> >
> > Out of curiosity, which one for example?...
>
> NSObject, NSString, NSBundle, NSArray, NSMethodSignature etc etc
> Lots in the gui too of course.
> Most changes are just additional methods, but a few remove/change old
> methods.
> And then there are entirely new classes.
>
> Simplest thing to do to get a picture is read the release notes for the
> various
> MacOS-X releases (though that won't tell you about all the differences
> between
> the first MacOS-X and OpenStep).
Uhm, what I meant is: are there methods which have a (fundamentally) different
behaviour but the same signature (as in previous releases)? And if yes, is this
mentioned in the release notes?
-Phil
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- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, (continued)
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Gregory Casamento, 2002/09/18
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Jeff Teunissen, 2002/09/19
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Philippe C.D. Robert, 2002/09/19
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Jeff Teunissen, 2002/09/20
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Dennis Leeuw, 2002/09/22
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Jeff Teunissen, 2002/09/22
- The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), Stefan Urbanek, 2002/09/22
- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), Jeff Teunissen, 2002/09/23
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Philippe C.D. Robert, 2002/09/23
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2002/09/23
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?,
Philippe C.D. Robert <=
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2002/09/23
- Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Pete French, 2002/09/19
Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?, Fabien VALLON, 2002/09/18