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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc
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Martin Braun |
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc |
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Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:59:23 +0100 |
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 04:13:30PM -0500, Tom Rondeau wrote:
> "Everything's shiny, Cap'n. Not to fret"
>
> That was just a little something for the Firefly fans in the audience.
You've just received +10 geek cred plus a personal "favourite OSS
project leader of the month" award from myself :)
Since I *actually* started this thread (sheesh, I'm such a buzzkill
somethimes) to motivate people to have a look at the GSoC page, I'd
like to throw out a couple of points:
- An 'application' does not have to be a perfect, end-user friendly
product. It can be anything as simple as a grc file that lives in
gnuradio-examples. If it just outputs stuff on the command line that's
OK for me (if it does something cool).
- Also, there's no obligation to maintain an application until the end
of days. If there's a cool demo available, adding some 'evidence' to
the project page (and this could simply be a page on CGRAN), such as
pictures, or perhaps a Youtube video, is already enough to make GNU Radio
look better as a backend.
So, don't be discouraged!
MB
> No, we're not interested in that level of involvement, and I understand why
> there is varying levels of friendliness and/or bitrot occurring in some of the
> CGRAN projects when you don't have someone who's motivated in keeping it up to
> date. Many of the projects out there were student projects and those students
> then went and got jobs that are paying them to do other things. And I'm
> incredibly grateful to those people who took the time to publish there work at
> all, lest anyone think that I'm critical of the contributions made!
>
>
> On the other hand, there are definite rewards that come from open source
> development, many of which are monetary. There are an increasing number of
> jobs
> out there that are requesting GNU Radio experience. When you can point to your
> published code for your resume, that could be pretty convincing.
>
>
> I won't get into all of the ways that open source works as a model, even for
> complex programs. I'll just point to Linux, GCC, Apache, and Python. There are
> a variety of reasons people contribute to those projects, sames as GNU Radio.
>
>
> Much application development for Gnu Radio is going on in the background,
> on private projects that will never be published. So it's easy for people
> to get the impression that Gnu Radio has no apps. That's just plain not
> true.
>
>
> And that's a really good point. There's lots of work that's been done out
> there. My specific issue was that there's not necessarily a lot
> "out-of-the-box" that people can point to and get working. A lot of the
> high-quality apps that exist are not distributed (and as far as I've seen, no
> one is breaking the GPL with what they are doing), so that model doesn't help
> with the general outside perception that I was discussing in my post.
--
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- [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc, Martin Braun, 2012/02/14
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc, Martin Braun, 2012/02/15
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc, Jeff Brower, 2012/02/15
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc, Ed Criscuolo, 2012/02/15
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc, Jeff Brower, 2012/02/15
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc, Philip Balister, 2012/02/15
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc, Ben Hilburn, 2012/02/15
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc, Andrew Davis, 2012/02/15
- Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] "GNU Radio is crap" and GSoc, Jens Elsner, 2012/02/16