Re: Printing Score

[Richard Shann]

On Fri, 2020-12-11 at 19:21 +0000, Harriman Martin wrote:
> I tried both your and Joe's suggestions, but I still couldn't get it
> to work.  I looked at the Advanced part of the Staff Properties
> Editor and didn't see anything that stood out as different between
> the Flute and Cello parts which do repeat on all lines of the score
> and the Trumpet and Vocals which do not. I'm attaching the denemo
> project file for you to look at if you can. I really appreciate it.

This explains it: you have custom layouts created, which you perhaps
created in an attempt to typeset the individual parts.
A custom layout provides a way of taking "the music" (that is the
staffs with their notes etc as you see them in the Denemo Display) and
customising how it should be typeset: what titles it should have, which
movements are included, which parts, what their instrument names are,
anything, indeed that is not the stuff that is displayed by Denemo on
the staffs in the Denemo Display window.
The downside of a custom layout is that if you change anything about
the score that is not "the music" that change will not be reflected in
the typesetting of the custom layout. So a custom layout should only be
created at the very end, and if you find you have to change something
other than the details of the music you need to delete your custom
layout.
But all this is only needed for elaborate things - simple tasks like
printing out parts don't require custom layouts, the full score, the
parts, a single movement, all these are standard layouts that are
created on the fly when you ask for a typeset.

Now what you may want is to make the short instrument name conditional
- as you may want to ignore it for typesetting the part. You can either
set it as "Only for Default Layout" if that is the only case where it
is needed or set it as "Ignore for" the part you where you have the
cursor. 

Testing this out, I see that when you create the short instrument name
it does not recall the current value for you to alter (which it should
to be kind to you) and it does not offer to make it conditional (which
it should as that would be usually wanted). So you have to get up the
Staff Properties Editor, find the Short Instrument Name directive and
click Conditional there.

I notice also that you have set the two cello parts to have the same
part name and different sub-part names - a little sophistication which
means that the two cello parts are printed together when you request
"Part" in the Print View window. If you want them separate you would
give them different part names (or create custom layouts...).

HTH

Richard

> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Marty Harriman
> 
> On Friday, December 11, 2020, 02:23:54 AM PST, Richard Shann <richard
> @rshann.plus.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2020-12-10 at 19:49 +0000, Harriman Martin wrote:
> > I'm having difficulty with printing the score so that the
> instrument
> > name prints on all lines and not just the first. At one point they
> > were, but now some of the parts are and some are not. I populated
> the
> > instrument name under staff properties, but when I try to populate
> > the short instrument name it doesn't save. I change it from "Vin"
> to
> > "Trumpet", hit enter. Then I go back to look
> "look" where? In the final typeset score when typesetting "Default
> Layout" or typesetting "Part" ...
> >  at the short instrument name for the staff and it still says
> "Vin".
> >  However, when I look at the Staff Properties Editor, the correct
> > short instrument name appears. 
> 
> Is it marked as conditional here? You may want the short instrument
> name to appear on the full score, but not when printing a single part
> (generally the person playing the single part can remember which
> instrument they are playing as they go down the page :) ). 
> 
> You get the fullest information about the short instrument name
> directive in the Staff Properties Editor by selecting "Advanced";
> there
> it tells you if it is conditional and whether it applies to the
> layout
> (ie typeset) you have currently showing in the Print View.
> 
> If it is not conditional the only thing (*) that will stop you seeing
> it is another short instrument name directive appearing after that
> one
> - look further down.
> 
> If it *is* conditional you can change that with the "Conditional"
> button in the Staff Properties editor.
> 
> You are very welcome to post your problematic score - you can delete
> the actual music in this case as it's not relevant. It will help for
> the future if some tweak can be made to the interface to prevent
> others
> getting into the configuration you have found. (My guess as to what
> has
> happened: on creating the short instrument name you got offered to
> make
> it conditional and didn't select "All Layouts" but rather the layout
> for just printing the part...)
> 
> Richard
> (*) well, not the *only* thing, after all, in the Advanced dialog you
> could change the LilyPond syntax emitted to say anything you liked.
> But
> you won't have done that accidentally. I hope!
> 
> 
> > It still won't print on the second and subsequent lines.
> > 
> > Thanks for your help!
> > 
> > Marty Harriman