Re: SOLVED Re: How to scroll with an unmeasured piece?

[Richard Shann]

On Tue, 2020-11-10 at 16:04 +0000, Joe Wilkinson wrote:
> I've just tried with Windows 10, Denemo version October 23rd.
> An Unmeasured staff fills happily with crotchets but they do
> disappear 
> off the right hand edge and don't appear on a lower line if I pull
> the 
> red line up (which would normally show the further bars.If I Spilt
> the 
> measure at cursor the second line appears but goes off the edge
> again 
> unless split again
yes - that's right, that's how it is, you can only put so many notes
into a Denemo display bar before it won't fit on the screen, so you
have to use the shortcut "n" to start a new "bar" - these aren't bars
in the music as that is unmeasured and won't show bars except where you
insert them. I thin the OP understands this.

Richard


> Best wishes
> Joe WIlkinson
> 
> On 10/11/2020 15:13, Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-11-10 at 10:14 -0400, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > Hello Richard -
> > > 
> > > On Monday, 9 November 2020 16:27:20 AST you wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2020-11-09 at 09:57 -0400, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > Hello -
> > > > > 
> > > > > OS:  Debian Stretch (64-bit)
> > > > > Denemo v. 2.4.0
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you for all your work on Denemo -- I couldn't do
> > > > > without
> > > > > it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm trying to write out an unmeasured piece for a solo
> > > > > instrument,
> > > > > but the
> > > > > staff does not continue to scroll once I enter notes beyond
> > > > > the
> > > > > width
> > > > > of the
> > > > > window.
> > > > 
> > > > What you have not realized is that the Denemo "measures" are
> > > > not
> > > > really
> > > > measures, but just convenient chunks that let Denemo display
> > > > the
> > > > music.
> > > > Actual measure barlines are created automatically by the
> > > > LilyPond
> > > > typesetter - this is discussed in the manual (Fn1). To
> > > > understand
> > > > this,
> > > > create a new score in 4/4 and put 5 quarter notes in the first
> > > > bar
> > > > and
> > > > three in the second and look at the PDF.
> > > 
> > > Yes, I do understand how this works.
> > > 
> > > > The command you want is
> > > > 
> > > > Command: Unmeasured Staffs (Off/On)
> > > > Makes the staffs accept any duration per Denemo measure and
> > > > typesets as
> > > > a cadenza. Equivalent to Cadenza Time from the first bar.
> > > > Location: Object Menu ▶ Time Signatures
> > > > Internal Name: Unmeasured
> > > > 
> > > > (you could find this by typing "Unmeasured" into the Command
> > > > Center
> > > > search box).
> > > 
> > > That is the command I'm using.
> > > 
> > > The problem is that the staff does not move the left so I can
> > > continue to see
> > > the notes I enter without using either of the two methods I
> > > described
> > > below in
> > > my first message.  I'm sorry if I'm not being clear, but I don't
> > > know
> > > how else
> > > to describe it.
> > > 
> > > However, I have found a solution:
> > > . use any time signature
> > > . enter all the notes, articulations, etc. (ignoring the bar
> > > lines)
> > > . go back to the beginning
> > > . use the Unmeasured command
> > > . I can now scroll through the entire piece
> > >   (and use "allow line break" and "line break" as needed for the
> > > PDF)
> > > 
> > > I don't know why scrolling doesn't work when starting out with
> > > Unmeasured, but
> > > since my solution works, please consider this solved.
> > 
> > Well, it would be good to know what's going on to avoid the same
> > problem arising for others. (I've included the list here, so that
> > those
> > listening in can find your solution).
> > I've just tested a new score setting Unmeasured Staff and adding
> > notes/measures until it scrolls as I go off the right hand side.
> > The most likely source of the problem would be the Gtk version:
> > If you do
> > 
> > denemo --version
> > 
> > in a terminal what versions does it show?
> > I get:
> > 
> > GNU Denemo version 2.4.4
> > Gtk versions runtime: 3.22.11, compiled against: 3.22.11,
> > 
> > It would be good to know if some change in Gtk is causing scrolling
> > to
> > fail.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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