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Re: Tremolo

From: Joe Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Tremolo
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 09:55:38 +0000
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Hi Richard,

I looked at Tremolo as I have used it with Mandolin music. I thought it might be possible to

  1.  drag the tremolo symbol to where Peter wanted it. Have you changed the Drag item (in the Typeset Window) command to make it more user friendly. I found it cumbersome (not using split screen I had to close the edit window to avoid getting confused) and couldn't get it to work!
  2. edit the tremolo object in the edit window. On one occasion I got into the Advanced setting and tried to make it negative (and the marks appeared below the staff). The rest of the time pressing the Advanced button replaced the line of buttons with a single one about editing. It came back if I picked the green tremolo word, but was not obvious.

just thought you ought to know


On 23/01/2020 09:08, Richard Shann wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 17:37 -0500, Peter French wrote:

I am using Denemo 2.2.0 on a Windows 7 pro box.

I need to note what I would call al Tremolo for Piano.

Usually I see this as two semi-breve notes on the staff with three
between them. Not beaming and not joining to either note.

Quite often seen as written for a left hand octave spread and rolled 
quickly between the thumb and little finger.

I can find no reference to this type of notation within the manual
The manual doesn't have the detailed information about all the commands
that are present, unfortunately. It *does* however describe the Command
Center which is the place where you can answer this question. If you
type Tremolo into the Command Center search box you will find several
commands to do with the various sorts of tremolo notation. (Use the ->
button to search onward for further commands after you have the first
your assistance will be appreciated as I cannot finish the score I
working on without.

Is there a way to line up a verse with the correct notes after
playing a 
piano introduction?
Yes. I think what you need to do is select the introduction (the notes
show with a yellow background) and then choose the command 
Lyrics->Skip Lyrics in Selection
- this will insert the needed "skips". 
For instance if I have a three bar introduction before the vocal
can I do this without forcing the alignment with the use of spaces
The above command uses neater LilyPond syntax to do the skipping e.g.

\repeat unfold 4 \skip 1

is the LilyPond syntax it inserts into the lyrics to skip four

Also how do I write for a second voice in the same verse, for 
instance echoing phrases from the first voice in parts of the work?
I'm not at all sure I understand this question - are you talking about
lyrics here or notes (the second case might be keyboard polyphony -
using several voices on one staff)?

Last question for the moment, I have a trill which I want to extend
a second note, like a crotchet and quaver combination not tied.

Using the trill on the menu's that I have found it only covers the
note, is there a way to extend it over the two notes?
yes, again the Command Center search puts you on the Start Trill and
Stop Trill commands after the three other trill commands.

Command: Start Trill
Starts a spanning trill from the note at the cursor.
Location: Object Menu ▶ Directives ▶ Markings ▶ Spanning
Internal Name: StartTrillSpan

I did previously write to Richard Shann and though he answered me he 
advised using the forum
I think you may have misunderstood - I will have meant to point you to
this mailing list, which thankfully you have found - if you subscribe
to the list (see Community page on you will be able to send
emails without them being delayed for moderation and see any other
questions that people may ask.

Best wishes,

Richard Shann

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