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Re: [Denemo-devel] Re: alsa


From: Richard Shann
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] Re: alsa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:04:26 +0100

On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 10:47 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:48:34 +0100
> Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > I was looking for a very helpful email that Benoit sent a while back
> > about some old work that we could clear out. I came across this one
> > from over a year ago. At that time there was obviously some thought
> > that the alsa stuff might be used. 
> > Moreover I notice that --enable-alsa is discussed recently by
> > maintainers upgrading to 0.8.6 in Ubuntu: it seems like if we have old
> > stuff it will make downstream people's lives easier if we clearly
> > remove it.
> > Can someone locate & destroy? Obviously only stuff that is never going
> > to come back & be useful... For myself, I am not at all clear what we
> > are using/is usable, and what is not.
> 
> Ok. Two things I have noticed that are not used are refereces to the
> plugins (I thought I commented all this out already but I guess I did
> not judging from the auto-generated docs on the scripting.
That will be the fault of generate_source.c
>  The other is
> alsa. Do you want me to completely remove the code or comment it out?
The priority would be to remove at the top level things that might lead
downstream developers to maintain dependencies etc so requiring
libraries and compiling files not needed. In particular that exchange
from yesterday that I eavesdropped on at
http://www.mail-archive.com/address@hidden/msg1627616.html

had the following snippets:

"- could you drop libasound2-dev from build-depends if --enable-alsa is
not used?"

to which the maintainer replied

"Yes, probably you could but that would cripple the audio playback of
the software and many people would file bugs against this error."

Which I guess is just caused by us not clearing out the alsa stuff.
(Once more, let me emphasize that I don't know whether these things are
needed!)

We got dropped from the Edubuntu distro through pulling in too many 
dependencies.

Removing code does not mean that it is lost with git, but  if it
involves too much work just snip off the top connections.
Thanks for taking this on. I realize I have been pushing rather a lot of
things at you. Shall I do some reading up on JACK MIDI?
Richard


> Jeremiah
> 
> 
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 18:40 +0200, Benoit Rouits wrote:
> > > No, i didn't touch it for a long time.
> > > Feel free to take it. currently only the sequencer is
> > > created but without any ability to play/rec.
> > >  use --enable-alsa at configure time.
> > > 
> > > Le mardi 08 avril 2008 à 14:17 +0000, Jeremiah Benham a écrit :
> > > > Ben, Are you still working on the alsa stuff? If not I was
> > > > thinking of taking a look at it.
> > > > 
> > > > Jeremiah
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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