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Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?
From: |
Suraj Kumar |
Subject: |
Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo? |
Date: |
Wed, 28 May 2003 01:11:28 -0500 |
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Raman.P wrote on Wed, May 28, 2003 at 04:57:02AM +0100:
[irrelevant quotes snipped]
,----
| I hope you remember a long list of do/don'ts, you sent just before
| SVCE demo probably under fsf instruction [like calling gnu/linux and
| not linux, no ms-bashing etc. not to emphasis on cost factor etc.]
`----
It was not a general Dos and Donts. It was a list of mistakes that
happened during our MCC demo (things like one person alone taking over
the microphone, unplanned talks / repetitions in points, etc.,.) and a
possible list of corrections. It was NOT given by FSF and it was only
me who typed it out. Since we are a part of FSF and since we should be
following the manifesto I wrote in it saying that we should call the
OS as GNU/Linux instead of Linux.
,----
| Afterall,when we go and talk to school management, we are allowed only
| because of our individual standings and relationship and NOT due to
| ideals of software freedom. We are trying to take advantage of our
| personal relationship to the advantage of our cause.
`----
I agree. we go to the school only to tell them what is free
software. If they already knew what is free software, why should we be
telling them in the first place? :)
,----
| See what happened to SCS school. We don't turn to them now.
`----
s/we/suraj
yes, I'm guilty. But afterall I'm not a full-time volunteer for
address@hidden Nor can I afford to become one right now. My company
works on saturdays and hence I couldn't continue (ok, this is the nth
time I'm saying this... I know :) ) A few others came up but due to
impracticality involved in travelling all the way from long distances
*I* thanked them for their enthusiasm and explained the dificulty
involved (sometimes on-list, sometimes off-list), with the hope of
finding local volunteers who are free on saturdays. Because if they
start teaching for about two classes and then if they find that its
very tiring to travel all the way to chromepet then they may
discontinue. And the school will start looking down upon us. thats the
reason why I was not suggesting Rahul Sundaram / Dhanagopal to take it
up from there.
,----
| We don't have enough people to followup. Just imagine, after
| committing ourselve to some schools and fsf bans us? This is what
| holds me going any further.
`----
I dont understand the relationship between FSF banning us and the
volunteer strength. Would people suddenly quit address@hidden just
because FSF banned us?
,----
| I have already an informal contact with vivekananda and few other
| schools in our area. I am not keen on persuing because of this
| factor. FSF is never known to attract people and never retained most
| who were with it.
`----
This does not sound like a valid reason to me. "FSF is never known to
attract people"? How did you measure FSF's attraction? How will
address@hidden attract people otherwise?
The only thing that we need is a good strength of volunteers. We
already tried telling people in various LUGs and what we have now is
an outcome of all the LUGs hearing it. Enthusiasm for going to schools
/ colleges has little to do with whether a person is in a LUG or in an
FSUG. What we need is good direction and good stuff to munch. When we
are associated with FSF we have the recognition which we wouldn't have
otherwise (even if we associate ourselves with a smaller LUG).
,----
| or 6 committed volunteers. All these can be done only if we are
| independant, not as part of larger machine. However small it is we
| need to stand independently.
`----
again I fail to understand the relationship between having good number
of volunteers and being with the FSF.
,----
| With this I am making it very clear, that I am not at all convinced
| about being part of fsf. I would like to be separate entity.
|
| Let us accept, we are not able to attract people. We have not made any
| significant progress. No one has turned to linux because of our
| preachings so far. That means we need to work more and attract more
| people.
`----
agreed, we aren't able to attract people. But I donot see any
relationship between attracting people and being with FSF.
-Suraj
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+-------------------------------------------------<address@hidden>--+
| The cruel one who thinks not of returning to |
| eassure, is unfair torturing me in dreams |
| (praising sweetness of dreams - 7), Thirukkural |
+--<http://www.symonds.net/~suraj/>------------------------------------+
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, (continued)
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Raman.P, 2003/05/27
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Arun M, 2003/05/27
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Raman.P, 2003/05/27
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Arun M, 2003/05/27
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Suraj Kumar, 2003/05/27
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Raman.P, 2003/05/27
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Arun M, 2003/05/28
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, M K Saravanan, 2003/05/28
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Raman.P, 2003/05/28
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Rahul Sundaram, 2003/05/28
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?,
Suraj Kumar <=
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Raman.P, 2003/05/28
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Ramesh Pallikara, 2003/05/28
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Rahul Sundaram, 2003/05/27
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Suraj Kumar, 2003/05/27
- Re: [DS-discuss]long time no demo?, Raman.P, 2003/05/27
- [DS-discuss]None, Rahul Sundaram, 2003/05/27
- [DS-discuss]Re: your mail, Suraj Kumar, 2003/05/27
- [DS-discuss]Re: your mail, Rahul Sundaram, 2003/05/28
- [DS-discuss]Re: your mail, Suraj Kumar, 2003/05/28
- [OT] Viduthalai? Re: [DS-discuss]Re: your mail, Ramanan Selvaratnam, 2003/05/28