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Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design

From: Arthur Maciel
Subject: Re: [Chicken-users] Wiki design
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 00:05:32 -0300

Dear Matt, if you like to play with a wiki test case you can find it here:

Just change the chicken.css inside / and refresh the pages. Sometimes I find it useful to see the effects on the myriad of pages that the wiki and other domains have.

Thanks for help!

Best wishes,

2014-08-29 22:03 GMT-03:00 Matt Gushee <address@hidden>:
Oops, meant to send this to the list ... and this version is slightly modified.

Hi, Arthur--

I don't like to criticize without suggesting improvements, so I am
playing with the design a bit to see what I can come up with. I'm not
really a designer either, but I occasionally manage to fool people
into thinking I am one. I'll say more later tonight or tomorrow.

My off-the-cuff answer to your question about whether the line length
should be shortened or the font enlarged is, not necessarily. I think
design is as much about tradeoffs as programming is, maybe more so.
Even in print there is no design that is perfect in every way, and
that's even truer on the web (for reasons that are well understood,


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Arthur Maciel <address@hidden> wrote:
> Matt and Yaroslav, thanks for your opinions! (more below)
>> From: Matt Gushee <address@hidden>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:47:35 -0600
>> The current Chicken site (in production) has 116 characters per line.
>> The proposed redesign, with its looser letter spacing (which, by the
>> way, I disagree with, but that's a separate email) will reduce that a
>> bit, but I think it is still over 100.
> Do you propose reducing width or enlarging font-size? Definitely I'm not a
> web designer so my proposal is much more an empirical work than a
> theoretically oriented one (although I'm already reading the site you've
> pointed out! Really thanks!).
> Feel free to suggest modifications, but I would really appreciate some
> guidance on css code or even patches. I can send the actual css file if you
> need it.
> And what about the increase of the line-height? Please include here why do
> you don't like it. I'd like to hear it.
>> From: Yaroslav Tsarko <address@hidden>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:12:40 +0400
>> But anyway, current wiki design makes me feel uncomfortable. May be we
>> could try with different color background? Instead of current color (ffba54)
>> should we try some lighter color? For example: fcd294 or fce5c3? They feel
>> more airy and not so strong. At least they disturb less when reading text of
>> the wiki.
> Yaroslav, I also don't like the current background, but I still prefer it
> comparing to the colors you've suggested. Probably we will also need some
> (color) theory to inspire any change. Otherwise we will fall into a complex
> territory called taste :)
> What do you think?
> Best wishes,
> Arthur

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