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Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE
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John Cowan |
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Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE |
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Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:27:34 -0500 |
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Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) |
Matthew Welland scripsit:
> In every release an "svn cp .../eggs .../rel-a.b.c/eggs" is done.
> chicken-setup merely needs to a) know the version and b) get the eggs
> from .../rel-a.b.c/eggs
Correct. And to placate Felix, "svn cp" only takes small amounts of
extra disk space, just enough to cover the metadata.
> Simply don't do it. Bound your scope. NO BACKPORTING OF FIXES. All bug fixes
> are applied to the head. All the branches are locked and check ins are NOT
> allowed.
I agree absolutely. The only possible exception would be a security-related
bug, but I don't think we really have those except maybe in the web server.
> > Do we really need a branch? Just tagging the egg repos should be enough
> > once a version is released, no? The egg repos wouldn't change, since the
> > chicken version is pinned to a stable non-changing version too.
>
> A branch and a tag in svn are effectively the same thing.
Indeed. It's just a matter of convention that a svn repository has
top-level directories called trunk, branches, and tags. For my
project TagSoup, I store the released version under branches, but
they don't change, so they are semantically speaking tags.
> Preaching to the choir I'm sure but other SCM systems don't have this
> problem (if I understand the issue correctly). My experience is limitied to
> bitkeeper and monotone, I have evaluated darcs, mecurial, git and a couple
> others also but settled on monotone.
All of those are change-oriented systems, where you can in principle
have 2^n versions from n changes (though of course most of those
combinations won't even build). Version-oriented systems like rcs,
cvs, and svn (and remember that svn is only intended to replace cvs,
which it has done successfully) only have n versions from n changes.
> Even after writing the previous paragraph I still say *NO BACKPORTING
> FIXES*!!!! The goal is NOT to make stable releases that can be picked up at
> any time and used. The goal (IMHO) is to make it easy for end users to
> stick with something that is already working for them. The end users can
> then move to a new release knowing that it is fairly easy to get back to
> where they were for either debugging wierd issues or proving that something
> *used* to work.
I agree entirely.
>
> I really want to be able to seamlessly install a historical version of
> chicken and an associated suite of eggs all at the "right" version.
And that's what distros want too.
--
John Cowan http://ccil.org/~cowan address@hidden
Economists were put on this planet to make astrologers look good.
--Leo McGarry
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, (continued)
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- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, Marijn Schouten (hkBst), 2007/11/21
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, John Cowan, 2007/11/21
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, Mario Domenech Goulart, 2007/11/21
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, John Cowan, 2007/11/22
- Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, Mario Domenech Goulart, 2007/11/22
- Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, John Cowan, 2007/11/23
- Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, felix winkelmann, 2007/11/23
- Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, Peter Bex, 2007/11/23
- Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, Matthew Welland, 2007/11/23
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- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, Peter Bex, 2007/11/25
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, felix winkelmann, 2007/11/26
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- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, felix winkelmann, 2007/11/23
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, felix winkelmann, 2007/11/23
- Re: [Chicken-hackers] multiple issues in embedded PCRE, Marijn Schouten (hkBst), 2007/11/23
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