Re: `man info` inadequate for `info info`

[Gavin Smith]

On Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 01:52:29AM -0700, Will Mengarini wrote:
> Standalone info is documented by `info info`, using which requires
> knowledge of its keybindings, which are not documented in `man info`.
> 
> They're documented in `info info`, but that's inaccessible without
> some clues (cursor movement, next/previous/up node, quit) that should
> be documented in the man page to allow a new info user to get started.

info should be a self-contained system, not reliant on man.

Moreover, the info man page is automatically generated so it may not
be easy to add extra text in there.

When you run "info info", there is a message on the bottom line

> Welcome to Info version 6.8dev.  Type H for help, h for tutorial.

Also in the displayed Top node, it says

> This documentation describes the stand-alone Info reader which you can
> use to read Info documentation.
> 
>    If you are new to the Info reader, then you can get started by typing
> ‘H’ for a list of basic key bindings.  You can read through the rest of
> this manual by typing <SPC> and <DEL> (or <Space> and <Backspace>) to
> move forwards and backwards in it.


Pressing H leads to the following help being displayed:

> Basic Info command keys
> 
> H           Close this help window.
> q           Quit Info altogether.
> h           Invoke the Info tutorial.
> 
> Up          Move up one line.
> Down        Move down one line.
> PgUp        Scroll backward one screenful.
> PgDn        Scroll forward one screenful.
> Home        Go to the beginning of this node.
> End         Go to the end of this node.
> 
> TAB         Skip to the next hypertext link.
> RET         Follow the hypertext link under the cursor.
> l           Go back to the last node seen in this window.

Can you explain why this is insufficient?  What is missing?
What is unnecessary?  What is in the wrong place?