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Re: Inconsistent list output
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Dr. David Alan Gilbert |
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Re: Inconsistent list output |
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Sat, 10 Sep 2022 15:51:07 +0100 |
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* Paul Eggert (eggert@cs.ucla.edu) wrote:
> On 9/8/22 14:23, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > GNU "ls" has this unfortunate misfeature of reading the whole directory to
> > read+stat every entry in a directory to determine field width before
> > displaying anything (even if unsorted), and this is a real problem for
> > large directories on a network filesystem. Please do not inflict this on
> > tar.
>
> Yes. In ls's defense, ls output is normally sorted, and the 'ls -U' use case
> is so rare that I expect we haven't bothered to optimize it. Tar is
> different, though, since it never sorts its output.
>
> The algorithm Tar uses is: output "user/group size" in a field of width 19.
> If that's too narrow, widen the field width to the minimum necessary. This
> may yield stairstepping, but if we increased 19 to a larger value we'd be
> more likley to waste valuable screen real estate. See Tar's
> simple_print_header function for details.
Why 'user/group size' and not two separate fields of 'user/group' and 'size'?
For user/group I'd think remembering the largest size seen might be
a reasonable heuristic.
Dave
> For what it's worth, people who want reproducible builds should be running
> tar with options like "--owner=0 --group=0 --numeric-owner" anyway, and
> tarballs created that way avoid the stairstepping problem.
>
>
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- Inconsistent list output, Ingo Brückl, 2022/09/07
- Re: Inconsistent list output, Paul Eggert, 2022/09/07
- Re: Inconsistent list output, Ingo Brückl, 2022/09/08
- Re: Inconsistent list output, Paul Eggert, 2022/09/08
- Re: Inconsistent list output, Ingo Brückl, 2022/09/08
- Re: Inconsistent list output, Paul Eggert, 2022/09/08
- Re: Inconsistent list output, Andreas Dilger, 2022/09/08
- Re: Inconsistent list output, Paul Eggert, 2022/09/08
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- Re: Inconsistent list output, Paul Eggert, 2022/09/10
- Re: Inconsistent list output, Ingo Brückl, 2022/09/08