Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Icecat future development

[ng0]

Additional input I just got:

The only addition which makes torbrowser use tor is the torbutton, which
I was told (currently I have no torbrowser access) can be turned off and
on.
Well this and maybe the default proxy settings, but I can't test at the
moment.

ng0 <address@hidden> writes:

> address@hidden writes:
>
>> Sounds really good. we have alot to learn from tor browser. I hope it wont 
>> break functionality for normie use or we will loose alot of users. keep in 
>> mind that Tor has become severely mainstream and is likely compromised on 
>> many levels by the global elite cult that runs our country and our 
>> corporations (monsanto anyone). at this point in the world it is no longer a 
>> conspiracy theory. it is critical thought. critical fact.
>>
>> we can still learn from torbrowser, but we shouldn't ever truly depend on 
>> anyone or anything as 100% safe. remember that. we don't live in a utopia 
>> yet. that's for the next life.
>
> A good option could be a browser which can optionally enable the plugins
> which make torbrowser torbrowser (enable/disable tor functionallity),
> and (make) opt-out the plugins which can be considered useful
> (fingerprinting etc).
>
> As torbrowser is upstreaming and the release rate seems to increase,
> maybe there's a chance to either base on that or learn from how they
> base on firefox.
>>
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>> 13. Aug 2016 15:47 by address@hidden:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I had an exchange of ideas with other people after the recent security
>>> announcement of firefox[2].
>>> The state of torbrowser was brought up in Guix as a problem and a
>>> discussion before, in the attempt to figure out how to package
>>> torbrowser compatible to our system.
>>>
>>> It was pointed out to me that the team which develops torbrowser is
>>> working together with mozilla to upstream their patchset[0][1].
>>> With this new development and the importance of networks like tor,
>>> it would be a logic choice to switch to torbrowser as upstream of
>>> icecat and follow their development.
>>> At least that's one alternative I can come up with.
>>> This will of course not be torbrowser in its original form, as
>>> adjustments are made. Wether this differs from upstream in the default
>>> unique fingerprint of the browser has to be monitored, but I am not
>>> suggesting to build another torbrowser, just to use it as a more recent,
>>> well maintained firefox codebase for icecat.
>>> For your information, torbrowser recently switched to follow a different
>>> version of firefox than in the last years.
>>>
>>> I don't know about the size of your development team, it is assumed that
>>> it is rather small? In any case, if you need help with tasks, there are
>>> certainly some people interested in helping to make the transition to a
>>> new version. Personally I have limited resources, so I can only be of
>>> limited help.
>>>
>>> I do believe that torbrowser might also benefit from this if tb is
>>> chosen as upstream and fixes are upstreamed to either firefox or
>>> torbrowser depending on the nature of the fix.
>>>
>>> I am aware that this message does not cover every detail I have talked
>>> about on other lists and off-list, but I'd like to get in contact with
>>> you on this topic.
>>>
>>>
>>> Additional question, what's needed to get into the store which icecat
>>> uses? > http://patrol.psyced.org>  is a extension which provides more
>>> functionality than https-everywhere. torbrowser 6.0.3 does not use
>>> firefox 48 as a base, but they might be working on a solution for the
>>> forced extensions+addons signing already which will start with FF 48.
>>>
>>>
>>> [0]: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1260929
>>> [1]: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1173199
>>> [2]: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg00277.html
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks and greetings,
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>>> ♥Ⓐ  ng0
>>> For non-prism friendly talk find me on > http://www.psyced.org
>>>
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>
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> ng0
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