Re: LessZilla/SeaMonkey: artwork and builds

[incognu]

Alexander Sack wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:34:55PM -0600, address@hidden wrote:
>
> > I've started doing some "third-party" SeaMonkey builds inspired by 
> > GNUzilla's
> > work on Iceweasel.
> >
> > Two things:
> >
> > 1. I've rebranded them as "LessZilla" and used some GNU images in
> > creating/assembling artwork for them.  Specifically, I'm using 
> > modifications of
> > Joseph Reiss's gnu head, Brian Bush's slick gnu logo, and the 
> > gnu/GNUzilla logo
> > in the about.png for Iceweasel. I make it clear that my LessZilla isn't the
> > real LessZilla which hopefully GNUzilla will provide, and I link to 
> > GNUzilla.
> >
> > 1a. Is this use okay?
> > 1b. If so, who is the creator of the logo.png/about.png in 
> > Iceweasel: I'd like
> > to give credit. (I really like this image, and would like to use a 
> > mod of it in
> > some throbbers for my themes as well.)
> >
> > 2.  Some of the scripts and imagework may be of interest to others.  
> > I rebrand
> > with extremely simple shell scripts, but they work and may at least provide
> > pointers to some of the SM-specific files/images to be changed.
> >
> > The image work also may be of interest.  In both cases, feel free to 
> > use any of
> > it.
> >
> > The builds themselves, and the scripts/patches and the logo images, are
> > available on my site:  http://www.incognu.com/builds.html
>
> The problem from the debian pov is that we had to come up with
> something now. Endless discussions won't help.
Yes, I use Debian and understand that Etch is relatively close  to 
shipping now,
so time is an issue.  It was only a day ago that I heard there were serious
plans to rebrand SeaMonkey for Etch.  As a Debian (sarge) and SeaMonkey user,
I'm pleased to see this.  Fully agree with Dorland and Debian with regard to
the issues with Mozilla.

However, I want to clear something up, as I believe there's been a
misunderstanding here.  My original post _wasn't_ to suggest LessZilla should
be the name Debian, or GNUzilla, or anyone else should use, nor generate _any_
discussion/debate whatsoever relating to how Debian or anyone else should go
about this.  My intent was _merely_ to query whether GNUzilla had any issues
with _my_ calling _my_ optimised builds "LessZilla", and/or with my using
modifications of the GNUzilla logo.  And, of course, to point out the images
I've come up with in case anyone wants to mod/use them.

I really don't care what the app is named, as long as it's Free, and as 
long as
I am free to modify, compile, and give away builds.

> About the Xzilla thing ... we have been given a pointer by mozilla
> that it would be a bad idea to use anything with zilla suffix, as it
> would probably cause troubles with the owner of "godzilla"
> trademark ... so better safe than sorry imo.
>
>  - Alexander
Thanks for your input on this.  As someone who just compiles a few optimised
builds every now and then, changing what I call my builds is fairly 
trivial. The next ones will have a different name.