Re: [Bug-gnubg] Two quirks ?

[Michael Petch]

Max could you email me your .gnubg/gnubgautorc file  . Thanks


On 22/06/09 3:59 AM, "Massimiliano Maini" <address@hidden> wrote:

OK, let's recap:

Settings: World Class for both analysis and evalluation (with normal move filter,
keep at 2ply frmo 0ply 0 moves + 8 within -0.160).

1. I start gnubg and put this in: 2M4NCQgmtx0AKA:QQn3AGAAGAAA
2. Press hint: all moves are evaluated at 0ply (best is 24/18 23/18, second is
23/12/, at -0.201).

3.1 If I play 23/12* and at next turn I analyze the entire game, both moves are
evaluated at 2ply.

3.2 If I play 24/18 23/18 and at next turn I analyze the entire game, both moves
are evaluated at 0ply (like in hint).

Does the analysis always analyse the errors at highest ply, no matter the move
filters ?

MaX.

P.S.
Side note: in the settings/analysis and settings/evaluation there's no tooltip
(text appearnig when hooovering over a control) for the "Pruning neural nets"
control. Much needed !!!


Jonathan Kinsey <address@hidden> wrote on 22/06/2009 11:14:14:

> I've actually looked at the original problem :)
>
> I'm also confused, if I set the evaluations to world class (2-ply with normal
> filter), then for me the filter says "analyse 0 moves + up to 8
> within 0.16), in
> this position they aren't within 0.16 so they don't get evaluated at 2ply?
>
> Jon
>
> Massimiliano Maini wrote:
> >
> > Hi, no effect.
> >
> > But now I'm also confused: should we use or not the pruning net ? I though
> > the answer was yes (which explains why it default to yes) ...
> >
> > MaX.
> >
> > Jonathan Kinsey wrote on 22/06/2009 09:54:43:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I think the setting should actually be "off" but it defaults to
> > "on"when gnubg
> >> is first used (no settings file).
> >>
> >> So just type
> >>
> >> set evaluation chequerplay evaluation prune off
> >>
> >> and see if that fixes whatever the initial problem was? I admit I haven't
> >> really followed the details here...
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> Massimiliano Maini wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jon,
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure how you want me to check this.
> >>> From the dialogs (Settings/Analysis and Settings/Evaluation) the option
> >>> is ON.
> >>>
> >>> If I issue a "show evaluation" command right before and after pasting
> >>> the gnubgid,
> >>> it says pruning nets are in use.
> >>>
> >>> Just checked, it also happens in command line version.
> >>>
> >>> MaX.
> >>>
> >>> Jonathan Kinsey wrote on 22/06/2009 09:31:15:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Max,
> >>>>
> >>>> Did you get a chance to see if it was this setting that was wrong? It
> >>> needs
> >>>> changing so it defaults to the correct value anyway but nice to knowif
> >>> it was
> >>>> causing the problem you had.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jon
> >>>>
> >>>> Jonathan Kinsey wrote:
> >>>>> I've done a quick test and the only setting that seems to change is:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> set evaluation chequerplay evaluation prune on
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It defaults to "on" for me, but changes to "off" when I reset the
> >>> settings.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jon
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Massimiliano Maini wrote:
> >>>>>> That wuold be my guess too, since my move filter is not set to Tiny
> >>>>>> (it's Normal).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> MaX.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Christian Anthon wrote on 18/06/2009 11:38:41:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It happens on new matches as well, probably something isn't set
> >>>>>>> correctly the first time around.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Christian.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:29 AM, motiv4u wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 2. Open gnubg, paste in this position: 2M4NCQgmtx0AKA:QQn3AGAAGAAA
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've tutor on, analysis and eval at World Class (2-ply). When
> > I ask
> >>>>>> for a
> >>>>>>>>> hint, all the moves are
> >>>>>>>>> at 0-ply (?!) while if I analyze the game, the 1st 2 moves are
> >>>>>> at2-ply, as
> >>>>>>>>> I would expect.
> >>>>>>>>> Is this normal ?
> >>>>>>>> This happens when you set the move filters to 'Tiny'.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> MaX.
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