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Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function]
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Thomas Hauk |
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Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function] |
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Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:27:07 -0700 (MST) |
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Joseph Heled wrote:
> In BG, the node value is the
> *arithmetical weighted average* of it's children, not a min/max.
True. But recall how alphabeta cutoffs work in minimax trees: if your
opponent can limit your score to something smaller than what you are
already guaranteed, then don't bother searching below that node.
Applying this to trees with chance nodes is nearly identical. A simple
example is this. Let's say you're already guaranteed a score of >1 from a
search in another part of the tree and you're at a node where the first 20
rolls all result in a loss. You don't need to bother searching the final
move because even if it resulted in a win (even a backgammon win), the
weighted average of the result would be less than a score of 1, so you
don't need to search that final move.
> This is what makes BG intractable to brute force.
BG has a very high branching factor indeed. However, usage of *-minimax,
along with techniques such as move ordering and transposition tables, may
result in programs that can truly search 2- or 3-ply, optimally. This is
what my research will attempt to find out.
--Tom
- RE: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], (continued)
- RE: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Albert Silver, 2003/03/27
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Jim Segrave, 2003/03/27
- RE: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Albert Silver, 2003/03/27
- RE: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Thomas Hauk, 2003/03/27
- RE: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Thomas Hauk, 2003/03/27
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Joseph Heled, 2003/03/27
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Thomas Hauk, 2003/03/27
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Joseph Heled, 2003/03/27
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Thomas Hauk, 2003/03/27
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Joseph Heled, 2003/03/27
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function],
Thomas Hauk <=
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] [Fwd: gnubg search function], Joern Thyssen, 2003/03/27