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Re: variance reduction [Was Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels
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Joern Thyssen |
Subject: |
Re: variance reduction [Was Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels] |
Date: |
Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:48:22 +0000 |
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On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 06:53:37PM +0100, address@hidden wrote
>
>
> On 24 Oct 2002 at 18:31, Joern Thyssen wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I meant: "... since it requires 21 n-1 ply evaluations".
> >
> > BTW, is this actually necesary: we just want an estimate of the luck of
> > the given roll. Would it be sufficient to do a 0-ply evaluation of the
> > luck, or would that introduce bias?
>
> A 0-ply variance reduction should be fine - it will of course be less
> effective than a 2-ply, but also very much faster. The entire point
> is that you can add anything which averages to 0.
>
> I don't remember the context where Douglas asked for 2-ply VR -
> perhaps there was a reason?
I was just browsing the variance reduction code in gnubg. I didn't
program it, I just saw that the variance reduction is performed
with n-1 ply evaluations (since you perform 21 of those it's equivalent
to a n ply evaluation). I was wondering whether this actually is
necesary. Perhaps it should be an option, e.g., one can perform a 2-ply
rollout but use 0-ply variance reduction.
Jørn
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- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, (continued)
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Joern Thyssen, 2002/10/23
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Morten Wang, 2002/10/23
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Joseph Heled, 2002/10/23
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Morten Wang, 2002/10/24
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Douglas Zare, 2002/10/24
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Douglas Zare, 2002/10/23
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Joseph Heled, 2002/10/23
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Joern Thyssen, 2002/10/24
- variance reduction [Was Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels], Joern Thyssen, 2002/10/24
- Re: variance reduction [Was Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels], nis, 2002/10/28
- Re: variance reduction [Was Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels],
Joern Thyssen <=
- Re: variance reduction [Was Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels], nis, 2002/10/29
Re: variance reduction [Was Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels], Douglas Zare, 2002/10/28
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Morten Wang, 2002/10/24
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Morten Wang, 2002/10/25
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels, Douglas Zare, 2002/10/25
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels 2, Douglas Zare, 2002/10/26
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels 2, Joern Thyssen, 2002/10/26
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels 2, Joern Thyssen, 2002/10/26
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels 2, Douglas Zare, 2002/10/28
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Measuring performance levels 2, Morten Wang, 2002/10/28