bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support

[J.P.]

Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net> writes:

> On 11/9/22 23:28, J.P. wrote:
>
>> Akib Azmain Turja <akib@disroot.org> writes:
>
>>> But Adam Porter (CC'ing), the maintainer of ement.el (available on GNU
>>> ELPA), a Matrix client, claims that auth-source is from the dark side[1]
>>> and refused to support it claiming it's not suitable for general use[2].
>
> Please note: I did not expect to be mentioned in this way here.  It's not my
> intention to speak poorly of others' software, especially in public.  In the
> Reddit post I made, I tried to be objective and show the problems clearly with
> code examples.

That's certainly the impression I got, and I regret not having said as
much sooner. Sorry you had to burn cycles on a dignified defense. At the
same time, I'm hopeful folks will find the restraint to chalk this up to
a teachable moment and attribute Akib's bit of ambush editorializing
(something I myself have been guilty of over the years) to the angst of
youth or a moment of weakness, both potential engines of productivity
when channeled in a more positive direction.

> And that is merely my opinion, of course, based on the shortcomings I noted
> (e.g. the lack of API to update a secret, the undocumented error-handling
> signals, etc).  I expect that, were I to use it in my software, I would end up
> working around these problems and answering users' support questions about
> them; and since I don't use it myself, either, it doesn't seem like a good
> idea to do so.
>
> Nevertheless, it's clearly used by a number of people and third-party packages
> that integrate with it, so take my opinion of it with a grain of salt.  If it
> seems useful to you, by all means, use it.

Thanks for your work on Emacs.