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bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled
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Drew Adams |
Subject: |
bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled |
Date: |
Wed, 22 Jun 2022 15:34:07 +0000 |
> >> I could inhibit messages for those two but it seems a little messy.
> > Please don't: those messages are both informative and important.
>
> Howard> ...Could you explain why you find them important?...
> Howard> To sum up so far:
> Juri> This is exactly the reason why it outputs its statistics to
> *Messages*,
> Lars> I vote for keeping the message, but I have no strong opinion.
> Lars> ...looking at it again...it doesn't really seem very useful
> Lars> to a user.
> StefanK> ... we should remove both the recentf-mode
> StefanK> and repeat-mode messages here...
> Eli> Please don't: those messages are both informative and important.
1. *Messages* should record _all_ echo-area messages.
As is, with no changes (curlifying quotes, fiddling
with text properties, prettifying,...). *Messages*
is a _log_.
2. We can add various ways for users or libraries to
optionally _view_ various subsets of such messages,
or to _filter_ (remove) them, or to _inhibit adding_
some of them.
But all of that needs to be optional, under control
by individual users or libraries, and _on top of_
an underlying/default behavior of recording every
echo-area message in *Messages* as is.
#2 has been discussed before, with no conclusions or
action taken.
I can't easily find the mail conversations about this,
and probably that doesn't matter - I think not much
that was concrete was proposed/discussed.
I did find these threads that touched on it, at least:
emacs-devel@gnu.org:
* Intelligent stacking of messages in the echo area
* Message's text-properties in *Messages*
* Why "symbol's value" error about a list?
Bug list:
* bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle
___
E.g., in the bug #40774 thread, I wrote:
I wonder if buffer *Messages* shouldn't have a menu-bar
menu, with a few items that do things like filter
temporarily in various ways, change `message-log-max',
etc. Some things a user might want to do with the buffer
content aren't necessarily obvious.
IOW, *Messages* could probably be made more directly
useful than it is now.
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, (continued)
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Juri Linkov, 2022/06/20
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Howard Melman, 2022/06/20
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Stefan Kangas, 2022/06/21
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Juri Linkov, 2022/06/21
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Drew Adams, 2022/06/21
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Howard Melman, 2022/06/21
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Juri Linkov, 2022/06/22
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Howard Melman, 2022/06/22
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/06/22
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Howard Melman, 2022/06/22
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled,
Drew Adams <=
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/06/22
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Howard Melman, 2022/06/22
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/06/22
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2022/06/23
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/06/23
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2022/06/23
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/06/23
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Juri Linkov, 2022/06/22
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Howard Melman, 2022/06/22
- bug#55041: 28.1; repeat-mode always prints message when enabled, Stefan Kangas, 2022/06/21