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bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead
From: |
Stefan Kangas |
Subject: |
bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead |
Date: |
Sat, 17 Apr 2021 01:06:54 -0500 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> No, that's not the intent. The intent is to make the visible bell the
>> default. To turn it off, you turn off visible-bell, which makes Emacs
>> beep again, and then turn off the speakers.
>
> Indeed. A good reason to use visible-bell by default is that we have no
> guarantee that the bell can actually be heard (e.g. I usually turn it
> off because I usually consider that a computer should be as close to
> silent as possible, except when I specifically ask otherwise (.e.g
> listing to music or whatching a video)).
>
> The other reason is that the beep can annoy other people than the user,
> whereas the visible-bell is very unlikely to annoy other people than the
> user herself.
(That was 12 years ago.)
So how about setting visible-bell to t by default in Emacs 28? This
behavior was called "barbaric" by Chong Yidong in 2008, and the
situation hasn't improved since.
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead,
Stefan Kangas <=
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/17