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bug#39359: [patch] TUTORIAL: Be accurate about "buffer" vs "file"; capit
bug#39359: [patch] TUTORIAL: Be accurate about "buffer" vs "file"; capitalize Dired. Four other trivial TUTORIAL patches
Sat, 29 Feb 2020 06:02:54 +0100
Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux)
First, I'd like to congratulate you on writing your first patch to a
free software project. Let's hope we see many more.
"Jorge" <address@hidden> writes:
> January 31, 2020 6:29 AM, "Eli Zaretskii" <address@hidden> wrote:
>> (This is yet another reason why introducing buffers before they are
>> described in the tutorial might be a step in the wrong direction.)
> I understand. I only disambiguated buffer vs file after the BUFFERS
>> Bottom line: I think in this case accuracy is less important than
>> providing an introduction to Emacs usage that is as free from
>> complexities as practically possible.
> I understand. However, if the user learns too much inaccuracy, she can
> be confused later when she tries to consult docstrings or the Info
> manual, because (IIRC) these use technical terminology.
> So I've made a second attempt. I don't want to waste your time with my
> OCD, so if after analyzing the second attempt you decide to just apply
> the parts you agree with (even if just the capitalization fix at the
> end: "dired" -> "Dired") and proceed to discuss the other trivial patches
> (and I can open separate bug reports for them if you wish), I'm OK with
Thanks. Please see my comments below.
> diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL
> index a7017336a7..536351c582 100644
> --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL
> +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL
> @@ -662,13 +662,15 @@ There are many C-x commands. Here is a list of the
> ones you have learned:
> C-x C-f Find file
> C-x C-s Save file
> - C-x s Save some buffers
> + C-x s Save some files
I think this change is good, and more consistent with what we already have.
> C-x C-b List buffers
> C-x b Switch buffer
> C-x C-c Quit Emacs
> C-x 1 Delete all but one window
> C-x u Undo
> +(Technically, C-x C-s is "save-buffer" and C-x s is save-some-buffers.)
I agree with Eli that we should probably avoid introducing the concept
of buffers here. Even if we would want to introduce it, the suggested
text is much too terse.
> -When you have made changes in a file, but you have not saved them yet,
> +When you have made changes in a file (technically, to its buffer), but
Same comment as above.
> -You already know what the filename means--it is the file you have
> +You already know what "TUTORIAL" means--it is the current file's name
> +(technically it is the buffer's name, but, when you are editing a file,
> +by default that is the file's name).
I don't understand the need for this change. Perhaps it's a matter of
taste, but I think I prefer the original.
> -If you are going to be editing human-language text, such as this file, you
> -should probably use Text Mode.
> +If you are going to be editing human-language text, such as this
> +tutorial, you should probably use Text Mode.
I don't understand the need for this either.
> Two features that you may like especially are completion, which saves
> -typing, and dired, which simplifies file handling.
> +typing, and Dired, which simplifies file handling.
I think this qualifies as a typo: well spotted.
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