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bug#3179: Entering Chinese "zero": add U+3007


From: handa
Subject: bug#3179: Entering Chinese "zero": add U+3007
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:18:25 +0900

Sorry for the very very late response.

In article <83bltc6lci.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> > Kenichi, could you please respond to this issue?  TIA.

I agree that "ling2" sould correspond to U+3007 rather than to the
current U+25CB (WHITE CIRCLE).  For the latter, if we dare to assign
some key sequence, it should be "wan2" (the key sequence for "丸" (the
meaning is circle)).

I don't remember why quail-ext.el has such a code.  As it is in
quail-ext.el, perhaps it was a request from some Chinese user.

---
K. Handa
handa@gnu.org


> > > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:00:19 +0300
> > > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 3179@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org
> > > 
> > > > From: Štěpán Němec <stepnem@gmail.com>
> > > > Cc: 3179@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org
> > > > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:00:35 +0200
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:51:35 +0300
> > > > Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Ming Hua gave no reasoning, and Štěpán said U+3007 is the standard way
> > > > > to write ideographic zero.  But why should we assume the intent here
> > > > > was to use the ideographic zero?
> > > > 
> > > > The intent (to write ideographic zero, not white circle) is quite clear,
> > > > because that's what the key "ling2" means in Mandarin. As is usually the
> > > > case in Chinese, ling2 can also mean a lot of other things, but white
> > > > circle is not one of them.
> > > > 
> > > > You can check with any Chinese or Japanese input method what suggestion
> > > > you get for that key (in Japanese that'd be れい/rei). I, for example,
> > > > use fcitx with mozc for Japanese and sunpinyin for Chinese, both of
> > > > which do the right thing. (I don't normally use Emacs input methods for
> > > > CJK languages, I find quail too limited for those and I suspect the same
> > > > will be the case for other serious users, which might also be the reason
> > > > for the lack of previous feedback.)
> > > > 
> > > > That said, by all means, do check with Handa-san, I'm kind of curious
> > > > myself.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, I've CC'ed him.





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