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bug#1993: 23.0.60; Emacs.app has only transparent window background

From: David Reitter
Subject: bug#1993: 23.0.60; Emacs.app has only transparent window background
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:00:45 -0400

On 4 Apr 2009, at 02:26, Adrian Robert wrote:

So my feeling is that the command=meta option is preferred by text- writing Continentals, while command = command is likely preferred by everyone else. I am not sure which group makes up a larger subset of OS X emacs users.

Well, a pretty stable 50% of all Aquamacs users are US based.

I do know that I received a few complaints over the years from folks disliking the Emacs.app command=command default. My answer was always to rehash the above and note that it's easy to change it -- just flip a combo box in the prefs panel. Now that it's not so easy (I guess figuring out the existence of ns/mac-command-modifier variable and writing suitable elisp to .emacs is necessary), the default setting becomes more important.

That's right. Similarly, I have received plenty of complaints about Option=Meta, especially in the early days of Aquamacs.

Could be done, but I think we should stick to one default for all layouts.

Then the system's one. No artificial changes.

I agree with both of these. So perhaps the best default would be command=command (super), alt=none, and the user can set a meta key (additional to esc+) if he/she desires.

Well, that would be another alternative - maybe a good one. It's my second-preferred variant.

The reason why I support Command=Meta for Emacs 23 is experience from working with Aquamacs and Carbon Emacs users. It seems to me that there is a division between Emacs traditionalists, who would like an Emacs with maximum compatibility across platforms. These people don't need/want Mac keybindings. On the other end, you find people with the need for cross-application integration. Unsurprisingly, that's the typical Aquamacs user, while the traditionalists compile Emacs from scratch or use a distribution like Carbon Emacs Package.

Due to this polarization, I think that it is sensible to Emacs Emacs- compatible. Because otherwise, I'm not sure who's going to fill the void.

(That said, Meta=Esc is a perfectly acceptable default setting, too. Just not my #1 choice.)

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