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Splash-screen, elisp files compression, gdb usage


From: ESCOUFLAIRE Pierre-Louis
Subject: Splash-screen, elisp files compression, gdb usage
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:18:40 +0200
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Hello,

While using emacs-22.1, I found the following problems:

  1- splash-screen '(setq inhibit-startup-message nil)':
      . calling emacs (no arguments):
          A splash-screen appears, which is perfectly normal.
      . calling emacs <filename>:
          A splash-screen appears, which is a regression from emacs-21.
          emacs waits for an input event to open associated buffer.

THIS IS NOT A BUG but RATHER A SUGGESTION.
I think that users requesting a file expect that file to be opened directly without having the splash-screen. I know that setting the 'inhibit-startup-message' to 't' will avoid this problem but some configuration are using this splash-screen and can be annoying in certain cases (such as loading an elisp diff script in emacs from command line). Newcomers to emacs are generally using 'emacs' with no arguments on their first use of it so they would see the splash-screen. Plus, they still can use the Help menu for tutorial. Thus, I do NOT think it is a good idea to display this splash-screen when given a <filename>.


  2- elisp files compression:
      . elisp source files are compressed on emacs 'make install'.
        Navigating through gzipped elisp source files is transparent.
        Byte-compiling gzipped elisp source files is not.

THIS HAPPENS ONLY FOR FILES WITH DEPENDENCIES.
THIS COULD BE AN ENHANCEMENT FOR THE NEXT RELEASE.
One could need to patch an emacs-provided elisp source file that has been gzipped and byte-compilation may fail if dependencies exist for this file. Should it not be possible to have '--no_compress' (or look-alike) option to the 'configure' script so that problem for compilation transparency could be avoided?


  3- gdb
  3.1- gdb default behavior

      . GDB '--annotate=3' option is automatically added.
      . GDB finds the first executable in the current directory

THIS IS NOT A BUG but RATHER A SUGGESTION.
Default GDB behavior is to add the '--annotate=3' option that is unused by several GDB users. In our case, it has also made emacs freezing while typing a simple command such as 'help'. Default GDB behavior is to find the first file matching 'execute' mode on in the current directory. The problem is that it also finds scripts (such as shell scripts) that are not 'debug-able'. I heard that emacs GDB had an enhancement to allow perl scripts debugging but it should not interfere with others. Perhaps an option/variable/... could help to disable this feature (e.g, variable gud-matching-executables-search).


  3.2- gdb navigation

      . GDB does not (always) navigate through source code.
        up/down/breakpoints/... do not switch to source code.

Here is a small/simple example:

-- main.c
  #include "pouet.h"
  int main () {
    pouet ();
  }

-- pouet.c
  #include "stdio.h"
  void pouet () {
    printf ("pouet-separate\n");
  }

-- pouet.h
  void pouet ();

--------------------

$ emacs
-> M-x gdb RET pouet RET
(gdb) b pouet
(gdb) r
(gdb) up
(gdb) do
(gdb)




Thanks a lot for your time and attention.

Regards,
Pierre-Louis ESCOUFLAIRE

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