Re: GNU Emacs elisp manual -- access within emacs...

[Dan Jacobson]

"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@is.elta.co.il> ?????
news:3A291D49.4DD2E83E@is.elta.co.il...
> Dan Jacobson wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I instead propose emacs and the emacs lisp manual be distributed side by
> > side.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand: how do you mean ``side by side''?  Do you mean to
> make the Emacs manual a separate package, like the Lisp manual is now?  That
> doesn't seem to be a good idea, since all other GNU packages are distributed
> with the user manual inside them.
>
> > And be installed side by side.  The idea is to avoid the user having to
manually
> > edit the
> > dir file.

No, I was saying like
emacs.rpm
emacs-lisp-maunal.rpm
[not thinking about ripping emacs' "emacs manual" out of emacs]

> Are you aware of the `install-info' program that edits the DIR file for you?
> Is it okay to simply add an entry for ELisp to the DIR file distributed with
> Emacs, even if the manual itself is not part of the package?

ok, in that case i'm thinking that when one installs the emacs-lisp-maunal.rpm
it will do all the things the 'install-info' program will do etc. too.

> > If the user hits the link in info for the emacs lisp manual, and the
> > manual has not been installed in the standard spot ../../local/lisp-maunal
or
> > whatever, then info
> > shoud give an error stating that fact and suggesting how to install...
>
> It does that already, but the question is: is the error message
> self-explanatory enough?  If not, perhaps you could suggest a better
> wording.
>
> Please post your suggestions to gnu.emacs.bug.

Being as how I haven't double checked or even single checked anything I'm
talking about, I had better make nothing more than some general ideas here.
E.g., the RPM idea above isn't really saying to use RPM format,
I'm just trying to say the process of adding the optional lisp manual
should require one command line action from the user at most, incase
it still doesn't these days.  [I haven't checked.  I'm still battling with
LILO.]
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