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Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine)
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Christian Pearce |
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Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine) |
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Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:08:12 -0500 |
On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 09:35, address@hidden wrote:
> I am strongly considering extending the Oslo website to incorporate
> a subversion service, instead of sourceforge. This is partly because
> I am a control freak and like to know what is going on. But it is also
> because I think the project belongs here in Oslo and there are at least
> as many potential developers here as in the US.
Understandable. I think the best thing SF offers us at this point is
compile farms, and a way of registering developers. I found every other
aspect of SF to be a pain.
> I would like a couple of questions answered before diving headlong into it:
>
> i) could one have a private master repository on host A and a mirror
> for public access on host B (provided all commits are done on A).
> I am worried about the security of subversion.
I was told GNU Arch could allow for something similar.
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnu-arch/ I don't think you would have two
repositories though.
It was my understanding you could have a main branch (yours), then a
community branch. That could easily share branches between it.
I have no experience with it. But a co-worker was considering the
Cfengine community might find it useful.
> ii) is there an easy web interface for developers that does not require
> significant web-programming to access.
Are you talking about something like CVSweb? I don't know what is
available but I have seen SVN web access already.
http://svnhosting.org:8000/websvn/listing.php?repname=cfengine
Is this what you mean?
> iii) Will the system be intuitive for CVS users?
It is suppose to be. I am finding it intuitive as I am learning it
right now. http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/svn-book.html
> iv) there have been several SVN security patches recently. What
> do I need to be concerned about?
Not certain, CVS has had security patches too. I think the important
thing is to patch immediately.
Can someone else chime in here?
> Mark
>
>
> On 15 Dec, Sven Mueller wrote:
> > Matt Small wrote on 15/12/2004 07:02:
> >> I've had to deal and administer a few repositories, including CVS and
> >> Subversion (as well as some horrible, horrible commercial alternatives).
> >>
> >> Generally, I'd recommend CVS for any project looking to start with a source
> >> repository, for 2 main reasons:
> >>
> >> - it's brain-dead simple; easy to use, easy to administrate, easy to
> >> recover
> >> from errors, and many (most?) developers are familiar with it
> >
> > (I would leave out the "simple" on your first argument ;-) "for" CVS,
> > but anyhow:) SVN is easy to use, easy to administrate and (with the FSFS
> > backend) easy to recover from errors. Many developers are familiar
> > either with CVS or SVN, and SVN is easy to learn, especially for those
> > familiar with any source control system (and even more so for those
> > familiar with CVS). Repository access is usually much easier to set up
> > (developer side) and straight forward than with CVS.
> >
> >> - it's easy to upgrade to anything else; every other tool (including svn)
> >> has
> >> a tool to import a CVS repository
> >
> > So this is a reason to use CVS instead of SVN? That you can later
> > migrate to something sensible? Why not start with something sensible?
> > Also, a tool to migrate from SVN to anything else should be fairly easy
> > to write, too. And it would have the added bonus of being able to
> > preserve information that is lost in CVS (like complete changesets
> > instead of specific file changes).
> >
> > I should add that I also administered both CVS and SVN repositories (and
> > still do), but I really prefer SVN for various reasons.
> >
> > cu,
> > sven
> >
> >
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- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), (continued)
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Chris Edillon, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Matt Small, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Sven Mueller, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Mark . Burgess, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Kevin Campbell, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Mark . Burgess, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Kevin Campbell, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), John Sechrest, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Sven Mueller, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Kevin Campbell, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine),
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- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Mark . Burgess, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Sven Mueller, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Christian Pearce, 2004/12/15
- Re: CVS for Cfengine (Was: Re: Bugzille for cfengine), Christian Pearce, 2004/12/15
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