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discrepancies between bison and bison-runtime textual domains

From: Paul Eggert
Subject: discrepancies between bison and bison-runtime textual domains
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:28:13 -0800
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We're about to release a new version of Bison, and I'm looking into a
problem with the Bison bootstrap procedure: it's not retrieving the
latest Bison translations from www.iro.umontreal.ca.  Apparently early
this month the Translation Project revamped how translations are

First, I'd like to get Bison's bootstrap procedure working again.
Second, I noticed some possible glitches in the new translation scheme,
which I thought I'd mention.


First, how should Bison get the latest translations from the
Translation Project?

The current Bison bootstrap procedure operates first by retrieving
<http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/maint/bison/>, and then by
retrieving all the .po files that this catalog refers to.  The newest
translation currently listed, for example, is
<http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/maint/bison/fr.po>, dated
2005-06-14 14:27:36 UTC, about 9 months ago.

However, I now notice that the web page
contains a quite different list of translations, which are newer.
For example, the oldest translation in that index is
dated 2006-03-04 21:21:26 UTC, only 10 days ago.

>From the time stamps I suppose that this new list is now definitive,
and that the old list should be ignored.  Is this correct?

However, this raises the question: why are there two lists of
translations, one of which is obsolete?  Shouldn't the latter be
removed?  And yet if I look at the parent
<http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/maint/> of the "old"
directory, I see that some projects have been updated quite recently,
e.g., mailutils was updated three days ago.  So I'm a bit puzzled as
to which is the "canonical" source of translations for Bison.


Second, the "new" translations for Bison seem to have some odd

<http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/registry.cgi?domain=bison> and
have some apparent glitches and/or gotchas.  I thought I'd
double-check to make sure these discrepancies are intended.

Here they are:

* 'bison-runtime' has 'zh_CN' and 'sl' translations, but 'bison' does not.

* In the 'bison' domain, zh_TW is the only language that lacks a 2.1a version.

* In the 'bison-runtime' domain, zh_CN is the only language that lacks a
2.1a version.

* It looks like someone regenerated all bison/*.po and
bison-runtime/*.po translations at about 2006-03-07 09:52:40 UTC.
However, there are two exceptions: bison/zh_TW.po is dated 2006-03-04
21:21:26 UTC, and bison-runtime/zh_CN.po is dated 2005-12-03 19:43:04.

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