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Re: Light weight support for JSON

From: Lawrence Velázquez
Subject: Re: Light weight support for JSON
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 15:52:55 -0400
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2022, at 2:56 PM, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2022-08-28T14:11:25-0400, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
>> I do not think bash needs to sprout functionality to support every
>> data-exchange format of the month.
> This sentiment is illustrative of the logarithmic memory scale of
> grognards.  The Bourne shell was first released as part of Version 7
> Unix in January 1979.[1]  22 years and three months later, in April
> 2001, Douglas Crockford and Chip Morningstar sent the first JSON
> message.[2]
>> A loadable module might be okay, I guess.
> How about next July, when JSON is as exactly old as the Bourne shell was
> when JSON was deployed?

I do not find "well *actually* JSON is old too!!!" to be particularly
persuasive, either.

I should have foreseen that the offhand "of the month" jab would
get undue attention compared to my actual objection, which is against
giving one data format uniquely first-class support.  That's on me.

>> Why are people so allergic to just using specific utilities for
>> specific tasks, as appropriate?  (This question is rhetorical.
>> Please do not respond with an impassioned plea about why JSON is
>> so special that it deserves first-class shell support.  It's not.)
> I won't litigate this point, but your concept of novelty is distorted
> beyond any standard reasonable in the computer industry.  If we are only
> as young as we feel, you must feel geriatric in the extreme.

Sick burn, pal.  Excuse me while I take out my dentures or whatever.


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