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bug#21832: 11.88.8; prompt for using LuaTeX/XeTeX engine


From: jfbu
Subject: bug#21832: 11.88.8; prompt for using LuaTeX/XeTeX engine
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 23:50:34 +0100
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Le 04/11/2015 23:37, Mosè Giordano a écrit :
close 21832
tags 21832 notabug
thanks


2015-11-04 23:30 GMT+01:00 jfbu <address@hidden>:
I find it somewhat fragile to decide only on the
basis of having found a \usepackage{fontspec} line
that the engine should be XeTeX or LuaTeX.

Do you have other suggestions?  They're welcome :-)

I don't at this time ... I was surprised by the prompt
for XeTeX/LuaTeX (which in my use case was wrong, but
certainly that was very specific context), and if I had
to pause to think about it, I would be tempted by the somewhat
provocative but sincere feeling that checking for the
engine is not that of a good idea. It would perhaps
if only *one* engine was proposed as candidate, but if one has
to choose between luatex and xetex, that's not much
speed gain compared to doing it beforehand, or
being confronted with a botched pdflatex compilation and
doing it then.

Recently I read a bit of XeTeX doc, and it is perfectly
possible to use it without fontspec package.

I find it a bit surprising to tie discovery of XeTeX/LuateX
to use of fontspec package.

Why not rather a file variable at top of file ? Yes, user will
have thus to put something explicit there, but isn't it actually
better if the file is destined to be exchanged with other people
possibly not using Emacs/AUCTeX ?



This raises maintenance issues on your side as
you must keep an eye on what fontspec will become
in the future, and also on what future engines
might arise etc...

Well, in style/ directory we have 196 files that raise lots of
maintenance issues, so we are used to them ;-)  We do our best to keep
them updated, and we seek for other people helping us.


My defense is now going to become pathetic, but this is time to
reveal that in my practice of auctex I surely underuse by a
factor 1000 the goodies which might come from whatever is in
style/

I must examine that


I'm closing this ticket.


ok
bye,
Jean-François






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