Re: [Bino-list] Question - native 3D-TV support (request)

[Vittorio Giovara]

it's normal that 3d monitors don't advertise 3d resolutions, by HDMI 
specification (1.4a): when in the edid the "3d flag" is set to yes it 
means that at least the three mandatory framepacking modes are 
available. Yes it's crazy.

Manually setting the modelines in the xorg works really well, but as a 
user i find it really annoying to have to edit the xorg.conf file in 
every pc; does anyone know whether it is possible to add those modelines 
on the fly? it would be a nice addition for bino to be able to switch 
resolution on the fly for hdmi frame packing.

Best
Vittorio

On 14/06/2011 09:16, Daniel Fratzscher wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> on my TV-Set (Samsung ps50c490), the 3D-modes do not appear in the
> EDID-data. Thats why I set the Option in the "Screen" section to ignore
> anything coming from the TV and defined even the standard HDTV-modes in
> modelines. My GT240 videocard supports 3DTV-Play. (It is the smallest
> geforce supporting Bluray-3D) I think that the modelines:
>
> Modeline "1280x1470_60" 148.5 1280 1390 1430 1650 1470 1475 1480 1500 +hsync 
> +vsync
> Modeline "1920x2205_24" 148.32 1920 2558 2602 2750 2205 2209 2214 2250 +hsync 
> +vsync
>
> should work for every 3D-TV set. The maximum resolution given in the video 
> cards specification is limited by the bandwith of the HDMI transfer. These 
> resolutions should work fine every HDMI-card (and your g210 ;-) ). Please let 
> me know if you got it to work or if you need more information.
>
> Best,
> Daniel
>
>
> Am 08.06.2011 22:21, schrieb James West:
>> Hello Daniel - Hope you don't mind an quick question about your post
>> to the bino list. I'd love to get my TV working in frame packing mode
>> with bino.
>>
>> I was wondering is you know that the modelines below for the frame
>> packing mode support should be consistent to other 3D displays. I have
>> a Panasonic 3D plasma from last year (tc-p42gt25), and support for
>> these mode lines does not show up in the EDID data so far as I can
>> tell. I'm guessing it might be implicit support that's part of the
>> hdmi 1.4 specification?
>>
>> I'm also wondering about the video card support to do this. I see
>> you're using a geforce gt 240. Maximum resolution specification for
>> that card is 2560x1600, yet you seem to be able to drive the higher
>> resolution required for the frame packing mode. Did you just discover
>> that by experiment? I'm using a lowly geforce 210 which has the same
>> max resolution specification as your gt 240, but I wonder if it should
>> also be able to drive the frame packing mode resolution. I know Nvidia
>> has some software product that supports 3D displays with some of their
>> cards [http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play.html] but neither the
>> 240 or the 210 are on the required hardware list for that product.
>>
>> Anyway, magical that you tracked this down and got it working. Do you
>> have any sense as to whether I should be able to replicate your
>> success with my geforce 210/panasonic display combination? Thanks for
>> any time to reply. Cheers -Jim
>> ______________
>> If anyone else want to try - this is my xorg.conf: (modelines in
>> section "Monitor" and option "mode validation" in section "screen" are
>> nessesary) With this settings it is possible to change to the native
>> 3D-Modes by nvidia-settings.
>>
>> Section "Monitor"
>>       Identifier     "Monitor0"
>>       VendorName     "Unknown"
>>       ModelName      "SAMSUNG"
>>       HorizSync       26.0 - 68.0
>>       VertRefresh     24.0 - 75.0
>>       Option         "DPMS"
>> Modeline "1360x768_60" 85.50 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795
>> +hsync +vsync Modeline "1280x720_60" 74.25 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725
>> 730 750 +hsync +vsync Modeline "1280x720_50" 74.25 1280 1720 1760 1980
>> 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync Modeline "1920x1080_60" 148.35 1920 2008
>> 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync Modeline "1920x1080_50"
>> 148.50 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync Modeline
>> "1920x1080_24" 74.16 1920 2558 2602 2750 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync
>> +vsync Modeline "1920x1080_25" 74.25 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084
>> 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync Modeline "1920x1080_30" 89.01 1920 2448 2492
>> 2640 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync Modeline "1024x768_75" 78.75
>> 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync Modeline
>> "1280x1470_60" 148.5 1280 1390 1430 1650 1470 1475 1480 1500 +hsync
>> +vsync Modeline "1920x2205_24" 148.32 1920 2558 2602 2750 2205 2209
>> 2214 2250 +hsync +vsync
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Device"
>>       Identifier     "Device0"
>>       Driver         "nvidia"
>>       VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
>>       BoardName      "GeForce GT 240"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Screen"
>>       Identifier     "Screen0"
>>       Device         "Device0"
>>       Monitor        "Monitor0"
>>       DefaultDepth    24
>>       Option         "TwinView" "0"
>>       Option         "metamodes" "1360x768_60"
>>       Option         "NoLogo" "True"
>>       Option         "UseEdid" "False"
>>       Option         "Coolbits" "4"
>>       Option         "ExactModeTimingsDVI" "True"
>> Option "ModeValidation" "AllowNon60HzDFPModes, NoEdidModes,
>> NoEdidDFPMaxSizeCheck, NoVertRefreshCheck, NoHorizSyncCheck,
>> NoMaxSizeCheck, NoDFPNativeResolutionCheck"
>> SubSection     "Display"
>>       Depth       24
>>       EndSubSection
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Extensions"
>>       Option         "Composite" "Disable"
>> EndSection
>>
>>