Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: root chunks

[Camm Maguire]

Greetings!

C Y <address@hidden> writes:

> --- Stephen Wilson <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > If your working exclusively with SBCL, you /may/ be surprised when
> > you try with an ANSI 2.6.8pre.  It certainly has missing features,
> > but is quite usable as a near-ansi lisp.  I used to work with SBCL
> > exclusively. But the strides GCL has made recently towards ansi and
> 
> I thought most of those strides were in the 2.7.0 branch?  I guess I
> need to check the ANSI build of 2.6.8pre again.
> 

Though this statement is obviously ill-defined, I think 2.6.8pre is ~
75% the way there, and 2.7.0 ~90%.

> No question there :-).  (Note to self, don't scare Camm away with dpANS
> talk...)
> 

Please accept my humblest apologies for my repeated silence here --
time management you know.

Here is the last I have on this -- I think the point of the
distinction of the public draft was partially missed -- there may
still be hope.

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From: Joe Corneli <address@hidden>
Subject: RE: ansi common lisp standard?
To: address@hidden, address@hidden
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:28:31 -0400 (EDT)

Please advise.

From: "Barra, Lynn" <address@hidden>
Subject: RE: FW: ansi common lisp standard?
To: "Joe Corneli" <address@hidden>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:33:55 -0400

Dear Joe -

I have submitted your request to the appropriate people within INCITS.
Unfortunately, INCITS does not allow its standards to be published
online or elsewhere for public distribution.  

INCITS standards are priced at $18 per copy; however, INCITS does work
with many organizations to develop license agreements (with discounted
rates).  We would be happy to discuss this with you.

In addition, if the INCITS LISP standard is used in other documentation,
the appropriate copyright approvals from INCITS need to be obtained.


Regards-
Lynn

Lynn Barra
Associate Director, Standards Operations
INCITS/Information Technology Industry Council
1250 Eye Street NW - Suite 200
Washington, DC  20005
202-626-5739
e-mail: address@hidden
website: www.incits.org
 

- -----Original Message-----
From: Joe Corneli [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 2:32 PM
To: Barra, Lynn
Subject: Re: FW: ansi common lisp standard?


Yes, you bet!  We're still very interested.  Looking forward to
hearing more.
Thanks,
Joe

   Dear Joe,

   Your email was forwarded to me by Jennifer Garner.  I do not recall
   seeing your request.  Is this something you are still interested in?

   Regards
   Lynn

   Lynn Barra
   Associate Director, Standards Operations
   INCITS/Information Technology Industry Council
   1250 Eye Street NW - Suite 200
   Washington, DC  20005
   202-626-5739
   e-mail: address@hidden
   website: www.incits.org

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Joe Corneli [mailto:address@hidden 
   Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:40 PM
   To: Garner, Jennifer
   Subject: ansi common lisp standard?


   Hi Jennifer,

   in October or November of last year, we sent the appended request,
   concerning the ANSI common lisp standard, to you, in hopes that you
   could communicate the request to the ANSI J13 management committee.
   Our aim was to obtain a copy of the Common Lisp standard with
   permissions that would enable us to use it as the basis of new Lisp
   documentation.  Can you tell me what the status of this request is
   currently?

   Thank you,

   Joe Corneli


     To the members of the ANSI J13 management committee:

     We wish to file a request on the behalf of Lisp users world wide
     that ANSI release the text of the Common Lisp standard in a way
     that would make it legal to use the standard as the foundation
     for a system of documentation which adequately describes Common
     Lisp as a living language.

     We recommend the use of the GNU Free Documentation License, which
     was specifically designed to apply to documentation and standards
     documents.  Using the GFDL, the copyright holder grants anyone
     permission to publish both changed and unchanged versions of the
     document, but requires that they all be distributed under the
     same license.

     The GFDL has a special feature intended for standards documents.
     The document can have an Endorsements section which must be
     removed from any modified version; ANSI's endorsement could say
     that the document contains the official definition of ANSI Common
     Lisp.  Other provisions of the license require giving credit to
     the authors of earlier versions.  Thus, modified versions would
     give credit to ANSI but could not claim to be the standard.

     We would be glad to explore ways to resolve any issues or
     uncertainties that may arise as you consider this request.

      Joseph Corneli
      address@hidden

      Richard Stallman
      address@hidden

      Camm McGuire
      address@hidden

      Richard Gabriel
      address@hidden

      Bruno Haible
      address@hidden

      Sam Steingold
      address@hidden
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> for Axiom.  Does GCL have threads?
> 

I'll try to post on this separately, as it deals with two other
"direction for GCL" questions, 1) parallelism, and 2) function calling
semantics.  The short answer is no, not at present, but we have a
quite effective fork-based parallelism (in addition to the MPI
support) at the lisp level: p-let, p-and, and p-or.  I'll try to
describe the advantages of fork vs. threads for lisp in a post soon.

-- 
Camm Maguire                                            address@hidden
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