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Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

From: Ralf Hemmecke
Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:05:57 +0100
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On 11/03/2006 10:22 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
Ralf Hemmecke <address@hidden> writes:

| > I'm very happy to see Tim is making changes more visible now, than waiting
| > for ages before seeing light. The main reason I originally volunteered to
| > maintain Silver is that I do believe in "live sources". Tim suggested
| > at the time that he did not have time do maintain too many branches.
| > It therefore was a natural thing for me to volunteer to take on the
| > job.  Now, if Tim has more time to do the job, I'm all for it.
| | > However, I see practical issue here: (1) first, we should not
| > have one single person as authority to
| >       commit changes.
| | We are speaking here _only_ of the changes that go to the next Gold
| release.

we are talking of Silver, right?

Right. Gold=axiom--main--1 only gets patches every two months.
The gold-to-be=axiom--silver--1 is the branch that Tim commits to in order to prepare the next gold.

In my understanding we requested that in order to let axiom-developers see how the current gold gradually develops into the next gold. We all agreed that Tim commits to gold. Since now that thing is called axiom--silver--1 does not change that.

axiom--silver--1 is mirrored on sourceforge /silver and is where people should branch from (which is currently not done because /trunk and /silver exist simultaneously).

Up to now silver in the form of axiom--silver--1 is maintained by Tim to assure quality for the next gold release.

build-improvements has been branched from (a not so perfect copy of) silver (which was actually gold=axiom--main--1--patch-49 at that time, if I remember correctly).

I haven't yet completely understood how Gaby wants the development process. Gaby certainly has quite a lot of experience with development on gcc. So we all would be happy to learn.

Gaby, could you post how you think Axiom development should work? (You should probably avoid the usage of Gold/silver/bronze.) Just post your dream. Where should be the main source? How many stages should be there before something is released? How is quality ensured? What _roles_ (not persons) should be responsible for what.

Actually, I should ask the same from Tim, but I have the impression I somehow already understand his model.

Only if we have a clear picture what the options are, we can discuss how we clear the current confusion or how we agree on another development model.

I found the discussion up to now not very fruitful. To me it seemed that it is still not clear what Silver actually is. I also have the impression that Gaby wanted something else when he opted to maintain Silver. Names can sometimes be misleading and I think this is now what we have. Tim-Silver is not the intention of Gaby-Silver.

So please Gaby, try to make clear what you like even if you have already said that several times before. We must somehow settle the problem that you and Tim obviously have different understanding of "Silver".


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